Re: Foam in the Urine

"Robert1" <Goldentouchman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jack Ruby wrote:
I read on the Internet that the foam in the urine meant proteins
(proteinuria), and possible kidneys problems. But in this newsgroup I've
also found this:

"Most people get foamy urine now and again, typically because of
muco-proteins in the fish, meat or chicken that they eat. During
digestion, the body doesn't break down these proteins completely, so
they are expelled in the urine. As muco-proteins shoot out of the body,
they momentarily come in contact with air and then with water in the
toilet bowl. Foam appears because protein does not mix with air or water."
"Protein in the urine is not visible as such, but unusually foamy urine
is often a clue to its presence."

http://www.diagnose-me.com/questionnaire/Q158.html

Just to expand this discussion to Microalbumin because many people have
these done routinely. The most accurate way of measuring a spot
collection of morning urine in the fasting state. Factors that affect
measurement of urine protein.

Albumin excretion
Blood pressure
Time of day
Fasting versus nonfasting sample
Salt intake
Volume status.

There is a biological variation assoicated with dietary sodium and
protein intake. Because of this one requires three measure be made over
a period of 2 to 3 monthis before determining the actual UACR for any
particular patient.

Some people just have a fixation with foam. It is not clinically useful.

Maybe it should be (clinically useful).

I've heard this before with foam and such other items as color and
consistency of mucous (sputum), blood in semen (and other variants of
sexual activities), and consistency and especially color of feces.
Unfortunately for your position it seems logical that any modification
to the body's output (and the presence of foam is usually something
"different") indicates an internal change in the processing by one or
more of its organs. That change may not be a manifestation of a
disease, i.e. a malevolent activity, but nonetheless requires
explanation beyond the, "Don't worry about it" one sees far too often
here.

If foam is so innocuous, I'd like to see some proof (e.g. Medline
studies). E.g. (referring to your list above), hold everything else
constant and jack up the subject's salt intake. Foam? Try it with old
people, young people, hypertensive people, hypotensive people, first
thing in the morning, last thing at night, etc. IOW accurately
describe what causes foam and prove it.

What's UACR?

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Relevant Pages

  • Re: Foam in the Urine
    ... Foam appears because protein does not mix with air or water." ... "Protein in the urine is not visible as such, ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: Foam in the Urine
    ... muco-proteins in the fish, meat or chicken that they eat. ... they are expelled in the urine. ... "Protein in the urine is not visible as such, ... I'm wonder about this mucoproteins digestion mechanism. ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: Foam in the urine: is it really proteins??
    ... doctor if they notice such excessive foam as it may be due to protein. ... It is a warning to see your doctor for an evaluation and diagnosis. ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: Foam in the urine: is it really proteins??
    ... doctor if they notice such excessive foam as it may be due to protein. ... It is a warning to see your doctor for an evaluation and diagnosis. ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: Head Retention Problem in Porter
    ... "If foam forms, but quickly dissipates, you have all the protein you need, ... the first sentence of the quoted paragraph would seem to fall apart ...
    (rec.crafts.brewing)