Re: Chimera



It seems to me, that publishing a pointer like the one below to a Google
group, is unfinished and lazy work. The site pointed to is a very busy
place, which leaves some question as to what the pointer writer was
pointing to. Only a few minutes of work would have been enough for
the writer to develop an abstract useful for orientation and for
advancing the discussion, and provide the abstract with the pointer.

Gender identity, its perception of self gender identity and of others'
seems to me very culture dependent. Thus giving us a large and
interesting topic for discussion -- and a problem about avoiding
stereotypes.

I think it's interesting to see that as we know much more about things
than we did back in the 1930's (See H.G. Wells' Science of Life or
Outline of History) the distinctions we think we see are much less
sharp than we used to think. It was interesting a few years back to
read of different bacterial species swapping DNA and metabolic
structures, which was one of the methods by which antibiotics
resistance transferred across bacterial species.

Chimeras are interesting too, but I'm not seeing news about
chimera work. A chimp/human chimera? Interesting.

I wonder if you could call a partial chromosome-21 person a
chimera? (The chromosome-21 break appears several
cell doublings into the fetal development. Thus the result is a
patchwork of normal cells and chromosome-21 cells.)

I dimly recall reading something about fraternal twins carrying each
some cells from the other, but not details nor where.

But from male/female chimera to questions about gender identity,
I think it's just plain lazy (or very sloppy) to simply step from the
one to the other without postulating some model for the connection,
or pointing to one.

Cheers -- Martha Adams [sci.med 2007 Apr 27]


"Terry" <kilowatt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1177601926.967576.220800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Apr 25, 11:11 pm, Bob <bbx107....@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:51:51 GMT, "Martha Adams" <m...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Since the thread
initiator thinks there is some connection, what would that
connection be? How would it work to produce the observed (or
postulated) result?

I think it is quite clear what the original poster had in mind. It is
plausible to wonder whether a chimera of male + female might have
some
properties of both. The OP did not claim a connection, but asked
about
it.

bae's reply was an excellent summary. There may be more in some
cases,
but that reply is a good start.


IF anyone is interested, here is a thread from another group that got
my mind to wondering. Most of the explantaions were over my head as I
have not studied medicine.

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_frm/thread/9b02122ec8421a55/aaa458e1b998420b?lnk=gst&q=kilowatt%40charter.net&rnum=1#aaa458e1b998420b



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