Re: XM-8 Rifle

ssnark_at_bangserver.na
Date: 06/01/04 

Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 01:03:05 GMT

"Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:ft1mb0d1b6bk0so801jn6q6p8j615u394b@4ax.com
> On Mon, 31 May 2004 08:16:30 GMT, "ssnark@bangserver.na"
> <ssnark@earthlink.net> carved upon a tablet of ether:
>
>> I used it's direct successor the M-21 in Afghanistan
against
>> an enemy armed primarily with Kalashnikovs and could
stand
>> off several hundred meters beyond their effective range
and
>> fire aimed rounds as the Taliban and 'Al Qaeda fighters
>> sprayed rounds all about. If I'd had an M1 I could have
>> added another 100 meters to my stand off. Between an
M240
>> to keep them pinned in their positions and my M-21 to
pick
>> them off, the only weapons that they had that was a
credible
>> against my people were the RPG and their mortars.
>
> And now the M1 has gained miraculous performance
enhacements over the
> M21 as well, I see.

The ballistics of the 30-06 M2 Ball cartridge versus the
7.62 NATO M80 Ball cartridge speak for themselves here. In
a slow fire situation such as when picking off an enemy at
distances greater than 250 meters the better performance of
the 30-06 will tell. It's not "miraculous" it's called
ballistics.

 Were you an 'average rifleman', for whom a general
> issue service rifle is intended?

Why? The fact that I was using an M21 (which is not a
general issue weapon) should already be an indicator.
Howver, your post which you've conveniently snipped stated
that, "The AK-47 entered service in 1949, and there's just
no
way the Garand is a better general service rifle than the
AK-47" I showed how the Garand's successor, the M21 was
used against an enemy using the Kalashnikov family of
weapons. I illustrated how in a modern tactical situation
the M21 or the M14 could be used against the Kalashnikov
weapons effectively in an engagement that was held beyond
their effective range. I also proposed that with an M1
rifle the same tactic could be used just as effectively with
the additional benefit of adding 100yds of stand off.
As to your "general issue" when the M1 was the general issue
rifle an infantryman had to qualify out to a distance of
1000 yards. When the M14 was issued the distance was
changed to 800 meters. Currently with the M16/M4 that range
has been reduced to 400 meters for the infantryman. If we
trained US Soldiers for marksmanship rather than firepower,
I have no doubt that the skill level of our infantry would
improve with the change in training and expectations.

Snark

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