Re: When was the turning point in technology's impact on war?

From: Tiger (Lana_sands_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 01/31/05

William Black wrote:

>"Tiger" <Lana_sands@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:41FA889D.7030207@hotmail.com...
>
>
>
>>Well yes &no. The VC may have been bare bones. But the NVA was being
>>equiped with top line MIG's, SAM's, tanks, and AAA.
>>
>>
>
>You're saying that equipment produced by the USSR, including the MiG 19,
>used so effectively, were all superior to US equipment of the time?
>

Superior? No. Comparable. Yes. Plus, US planes were used mostly as bomb
trucks with limtied rules of engagement. A good pilot in in a Mig might
have the better day in air combat.

>
>So what second hand Korean war vintage fighters were the US using?
>
F10's for an example.

>
>We're talking about an army whose main battle tank in 1970 was the T-34 and
>whose main supply vehicle was the bicycle.
>
It got the job done....

>
>I've heard some reasonably deranged excuses for the thrashing the US got in
>Vietnam, but being defeated by superior technology is the most bonkers yet.
>
>
>
I never said any such thing. The orginal post suggested that Vietnam
lacked technology. Thats not true.

--------------080007060605020505020902
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">
  <title></title>
</head>
<body>
William Black wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="midctfum3$r7f$1@news.freedom2surf.net">
  <pre wrap="">"Tiger" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Lana_sands@hotmail.com">&lt;Lana_sands@hotmail.com&gt;</a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:41FA889D.7030207@hotmail.com">news:41FA889D.7030207@hotmail.com</a>...

  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Well yes &amp;no. The VC may have been bare bones. But the NVA was being
equiped with top line MIG's, SAM's, tanks, and AAA.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
You're saying that equipment produced by the USSR, including the MiG 19,
used so effectively, were all superior to US equipment of the time?</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
Superior? No. Comparable. Yes. &nbsp;Plus, US planes were used mostly as bomb
trucks with limtied rules of engagement. A good pilot in in a Mig might have
the better day in air combat. <br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="midctfum3$r7f$1@news.freedom2surf.net">
  <pre wrap="">

So what second hand Korean war vintage fighters were the US using?</pre>
</blockquote>
F10's for an example.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="midctfum3$r7f$1@news.freedom2surf.net">
  <pre wrap="">

We're talking about an army whose main battle tank in 1970 was the T-34 and
whose main supply vehicle was the bicycle.</pre>
</blockquote>
It got the job done....<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="midctfum3$r7f$1@news.freedom2surf.net">
  <pre wrap="">

I've heard some reasonably deranged excuses for the thrashing the US got in
Vietnam, but being defeated by superior technology is the most bonkers yet.

  </pre>
</blockquote>
I never said any such thing. The orginal post suggested that Vietnam lacked
technology. Thats not true.<br>
<br>
</body>
</html>

--------------080007060605020505020902--

Relevant Pages

  • Re: When was the turning point in technologys impact on war?
    ... were all superior to US equipment of the time? ... > So what second hand Korean war vintage fighters were the US using? ... but being defeated by superior technology is the most bonkers yet. ... The Mig 19 was a superior in-close dog fighter to pretty ...
    (sci.military.moderated)
  • Re: When was the turning point in technologys impact on war?
    ... > equiped with top line MIG's, SAM's, tanks, and AAA. ... You're saying that equipment produced by the USSR, including the MiG 19, ... but being defeated by superior technology is the most bonkers yet. ...
    (sci.military.moderated)
  • Re: RDF (radio direction finding) ... do you ?
    ... When you are close to shore in fog, ... you need only the equipment that is needed to fly what ... "A superior skipper is best defined as one that uses his superior ... knowledge and judgment to keep him out of situations requiring his ...
    (rec.boats.cruising)
  • Re: TL Tedium
    ... would you also apply the penalty if ... m> the equipment was superior, ... That's TL5 to TL7, and the equipment is ...
    (rec.games.frp.gurps)