Re: Humvee as a infantry fighting vehicle?
- From: John Schilling <schillin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 26 May 2005 13:43:30 -0700
In article
<slrnd975v2.b4d.dan1701usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Dan Holdsworth says...
>On 18 May 2005 08:44:48 GMT, Juergen Nieveler
> <juergen.nieveler.nospam@xxxxxxxx>
>was popularly supposed to have said:
>> "Thomas Schoene" <taschoene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> The US had all of these sorts of vehicles (as anyone with a hint of
>>> military knowledge would know) in considerable numbers. What they
>>> didn't have was any of them deployed to Somalia, which was a matter of
>>> politics and logisitcs.
>> Would the Bradleys actually have been usefull, anyway? The main
>> advantage of a Humvee is that it doesn't get stuck in narrow streets -
>> and even there, the old MUTT was in a much better position :-)
>The problem with the Humvee is that it was pretty much designed by a
>committee on the lines of "Make it have incredible off-road ability, and
>let's stick lots of guns on it".
???
I've never seen a Hummvee with more than one gun, and it basically has
the same weapons fit as the old M151 Jeep it replaced. One open mount
for one machine gun, automatic grenade launcher, or maybe recoilless
rifle or antitank missile at the expense of all other payload.
It's as lightly armed as a vehicle can be without being completely
unarmed, as is appropriate for something that is a utility vehicle
rather than a fighting vehicle. Most military vehicles, land, sea,
and air, are for taking men and gear to and from the fight, not
for serving as weapons platforms during the fight. The Hummer,
for the most part, is one more of the same.
The Bradley, is the U.S. Army's compromise design for carrying infantry
to the fight and then serving as a weapons platform. Also the LAV and
Stryker, as wheeled equivalents perhaps better suited for the urban
environment. But they *are* compromises; you can't fit a useful payload
and a useful main armament and RPG-proof armor into a single vehicle
of reasonable size. Pick any two, and if you want your vehicle to
weigh less than twenty tons, pick one.
The Hummer, carries a useful payload under minimal or no armor and with
minimal or no armament.
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