Re: Sten Gun design
- From: eugene@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Eugene Miya)
- Date: 29 Dec 2005 09:44:37 -0700
Just passing thru....
In article <1135378462.534226.95360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
coastwatch <coastwatch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Can anyone throw light on what I see as a design quirk in the Sten Gun
>>From my limited knowledge most SMGs have a magazine that fits under the
>gun, the only others I know of are the old German Bergman, and the
>British Lanchester that derived form it ( also the post WW11 Sterling
>SMG)
>I have no experience of using firearms, but it seems to me awkward to
>have a magazine sticking out at one side of the gun.
If you ever visit Las Vegas, I recommend a visit to The Gun Store
down Tropicana.
For $40 you can fire one (2 clips).
You can also fire a Thompson, an M3 grease gun, an MP40, an MP5, a Madsen,
an AK, 3 kinds M-16 (M-4 being one), etc. They used to have 2 with
noise suppessors. Oh yes an Uzi. The trip happened because an old
officemate wanted to fire an Uzi. After that, we drove so far, I said,
Hell, I will try them all. So I tried a dozen. Oh, and they had a SAW.
And you get to keep the targets.
My impressions were the Bren was amazing inaccurate (and this one had a
laser sight). The Thompson was surpisingly heavy (so you can get a
sense of 2 Tom Hanks movies Ryan and Road where he uses one).
When I used the MP-40 it was kind of like driving a BMW.
I was amazed that Allies won the war (the Germans must have run out of ammo).
The Uzi feels accurately impressive for its size. Each and every one of
these weapons was like a different animals species in a zoo.
The MP5 jammed a lot (Bruce Willis in Die Hard).
Like the running fire fight, that would be
annoying in the field. All those cost oh maybe $450 on a Visa.
The AK wasn't there when I was there, but I did it the next year.
Side or under didn't matter. That part of the action worked.
What the experience did tell me was that soldiers were not going to just
pick up a weapon on a battle field and just shoot. The safeties for
instance are located in different places and work in different ways.
We went back a second time a year later with a rich friend (I didn't
have to spend money to watch, and I got a few guest bursts).
I did try the AK. My rich friend only spent about $350. He's left
handed and many of these guns are very right biased. He didn't like the
MP40 as much as I did (my father had to go up against many Germans in
WWII armed with these classic burp guns).
I used to see an indoor range in Springfield, OR which used to
advertise a Thompson off I5. I would guess there are many other places
who do this.
The place to really try these systems are occasional MG shoots in places
like Knob Creek or Fernley NV (nice guys very diverse ownership,
not Neo-Nazis at all: Fathers day or Columbus Day,
but they do special events like bachelor parties).
There you can get belt fed action. www.mustangrange.com
Let me tell you, despite the M2 and of the M60, a German MG 42 is still
a very fierce weapon, especially stay for night time tracer fire.
The belt fed Browning .30 cal. air cooled seemed as inaccurate to me as
the Sten. I think about $50 for 200 rounds end of day (fire sale).
Forget news clips, be there in person and tape your own footage.
Expensive hobby.
But for my money. I want a flame thrower. This is the net after all.
[I did use one.]
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