Re: Future of Tanks

Andrew, I tend to agree with you more then not, but you have forwarded
some common myths relating to armored vehicles that I feel I should
respond too. Wheeled vehicles being cheaper is based upon the
assumption of using commercial drivetrains. The current crop of
wheeled armor using complex 6x6 and 8x8 drivetrains actually tend to be
far more expensive then tracked LAV's. Look at the cost of the Styrker
compared to simalier air-transportable tracked armor. The 113, 113
improved variants, Weisel etc. are all signifigantly cheaper then the
Stryker and far easier to upgrade. The Dingo 2, that has nearly
identical primary capabilities as the Stryker except that it carries a
team of 8 instead of twelve (this is actually an advantage if you study
the history of armor used in the scenarios that the Styker is meant
for) is about 1/6 the cost of the stryker becouse it relies on mostly
commercial 4x4 technology. The other myth forwarded is that armor is
not benificial for anti-insurgency work. Combined arms helps in major
theatre war, limited objective war, insurgency, and stabily and
sustainment operations. Period. Proper force structure and doctrine
allow you to have overmatch against all kinds of opposition and
considering the US's very low strategic defeat threshold, this is a
must. Historical analasis will show that armor in complex terrain must
be survivable againt AT systems, particurly in the frontal arc. This
means non-supported LAVs are NOT ideal for MOUT operations. The answer
is primarly in force structure and doctrine, not in technology. Hope
this helps,
SPC Reed Dyer, OANG
Andrew Swallow wrote:
> Paul J. Adam wrote:
>
> > In message <dpkmro$eqc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew
> > Swallow <am.swallow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> [snip]
>
> >>
> >> Does anti-insurgency work need a tank or an armoured car?
> >
> >
> > Depends on the insurgency. If they're mostly just using small-arms, then
> > a light armoured vehicle is quite adequate, even preferable.
> >
> > If they've got ready access to RPGs and IEDs (ranging from simple
> > remote-detonated artillery shells, to explosively-formed projectiles
> > triggered by passive infrared) then you want something heavier and more
> > survivable.
>
> Since IEDs can be home made and the whole world has seen their
> effectiveness on tv we can assume that they will be normal insurgency
> weapons from now on.
>
> There may be logistical advantages in using the same components, such as
> engines, in trucks and infantry support vehicles. Hopefully armoured
> wheeled vehicles will be a lot cheaper than tanks.
>
> Andrew Swallow

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