Re: [Sci.nanotech] Re: Nano Morality
- From: maple <maple1@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:42:12 -0000
I feel that we are wasting time in discussing about Morality and New
Technology impact. This is retarding the technological growth. The entire
universe is going through increase in entropy. Planet earth is a part of
it. It is in equilibrium with the entropic state of universe. If there is
not increase in entropy of earth at the same pace of Universe, there would
be some natural calamities, which will maintain the equilibrium. There is
nothing wrong to jump into new technologies and proceed to master them full
heartedly. Probably we are putting a brake on natural way of entropic rise
with the help of technological progress.
Nandan
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From: <rhooker123@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: sci.nanotech
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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:43 PM
Subject: [Sci.nanotech] Re: Nano Morality
If we don't make sure our AIs are civilized, and have our best
interests at heart, then we will be in real trouble. Those of us
that they don't just digitise to save the space and stop us
wasting resources. And, that assumes that they care enough to
even bother doing that.
Because as we move to Nanotechnology we need to stop thinking of our
machines as devices, as simply solutions or applicaitons of designs, we
need to see them as Machines.
It is simply taken for granted that technology is neutral, niether good
or bad, and that humans are the ones who have to make the moral
selection. Recent events have convinced me that this is just
homo-species arrogance. Firstly humans have proven themselves to be
terrible at moral and social responsibility and I have no reason to
assume that within 10 years there will be cheap devices that can be
built which will be better social members and better protectors of the
planet as a system than most people and any government.
Beyond that I am starting to wonder, as we move towards singularity, if
humans and thier senses of morality really do command technology. For
example I had an IT consulting business through the dot bomb. They
were difficult years. I was trying to sell Internet technology to
CEOs, small businesses, and other and everyone was saying what the
markets were saying: the Internet was a false promise, that they had
wasted enough money on it, and would not do any more. My company, like
so many other, had to develop other lines of business to survive and I
was 6 months away from giving up on Internet development.
Then by the middle of 2004 HTTP and the Internet was at the core of all
IT technology, the market for Internet sevices was booming, and the
entire global economy had been utterly transformed by the technology.
Today the dot boom is going much harder and faster than ever did during
the late 1990s, and people are using the Internet at a level no one
would have predicted.
So who made this happen? I would say no-one, that the technology moved
on its own logic, like DNA in bacteria, we are just vessels, a few
humans have the minds of create these things, but our society is a
mindless vessel of the logic of the new technology which has already
taken over. I profoundly doubt that the human species could stop the
Internet if it wanted to, its beyond the capacity of any government or
power on earth.
And who makes Moore's law work anyways?
I think that once a technology gets going nothing short of total human
extinction will stop it, and in 30 years not even that will stop it.
So its foolish to think humans will use technology wisely, they won't.
Americans learned about the dangers of fatty food just in time to
became a nation of fat asses, they learned about global warming just
before engaging in a bing of SUV purchases. People can be relied upon
to act utterly indifferent to their own moral values and better
judgement. If we count on humans to figure wise ways to use technology
we are probably extinct in the long run.
What I am proposing is we need to wake up and see that the Machines are
more and more in command, and that we need to think about building
moral machines. I think it would be a lot easier to figure out how to
make computer programs which are constrained from harming humans or
nature than getting anything out of governments.
We have to face the reality that human civilisation is limited, that
nations like America will tolerate leaders like Bush, that our society
will be run by asocial monsters and murders for some time in a future,
so we need to insure that the new form of order coming up to take out
place in the Singularity are better than we.
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