Re: Nano Morality


In article <123viua9f4f4qf7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<URL:mailto:rhooker123@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There is only so much money to be made selling banner ads. Are you aware
of how slow AI research is proceding and has been for many decades? Real
money is just starting to be dumped into nanotech. When is your AI
Singularity prediction and when do you think nanotech will be mature?

I know very well how slowly AI research has progressed, mostly because
its objectives were not fully understood in the 1960s and the field was
dominated by University researchers.

This is not the forum to discuss AI, except how it might apply to
nanotech, but the objectives were pretty clear, we just didn't
know how to get there. Also, there was likely secret military
research, automatic tanks and planes, and robots soldiers, just
as some examples, and commerce had some pretty good ideas about
how useful AI could be to them. Look at what was done in car
etc. manufacture with even non-AI robots.

Reading some of the literature of the time, now I believe free
for download, can be quite instructive.


But only now are the machines starting to be build at the complexity
and with the power that we may be able to build machines which will be
able to go beyond human beings in all areas of activity, including
morality.

Raw power, yes, algorithms to make AI work, no. I think we will
need more than superior simulations of neural nets, even
implemented at the nanoscale, to make AI work properly.

I've talked about, or at least speculated on, implementing
morality in other posts, but we shouldn't lose track of what we
want from nanotech is safe behaviour, not a superior moral
capability which we hope will lead to such.

Which is, arguably, not something needing super-intelligent AIs.


So when do I think that a computer system will be available which will
be able to out perform a human on any intellectual task, about 2060.
When do I think Nanotechnology will exist as an industry like mobile
technology is today, well the task is far more complex and we are
coming up from next to nowhere, so 2160.

Try reading some of Rudy Rucker's science fiction. Almost
anything that has been talked about in science fiction, even
'year 3000' stuff, might if it is physically and technically
possible occur by 2050. Anything. Then, if you are a believer
in the Singularity, look at when Vernor Vinge predicted it: by
2030. (Google on 'singularity vinge'.)

We need to worry about, and work on, this stuff. Now.


Since I will be dead before both events I hope you won't hold me to
these dates.

Unfortunately, life extension technologies starting to appear,
which nanotech even in its present form is only likely to
enhance, may mean that you and I will have to rely on accident or
intentionally not reaching that age...

Things are changing pretty fast, in all sorts of areas...

--
Rory McLean, Dreamer
rory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.romsys.demon.co.uk/


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