Re: The Nanotech Rapture




Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
Tim Tyler <seemysig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Computing elements will be among the first usable nanotechnology -

That may well be true - it's certainly a hungry market. However
that's not enough to provide AI. Consider, a human brain is reckoned to have
around 10^11 neurons, PCs routinely come with 3-5 * 10^11 bytes of storage
(hard disc) and can easily accomodate 4 * 10^12 bytes of storage (40 bytes
per neuron). This implies that modeling a human brain (or building a neural
network of human brain complexity) is in reach of a network of dedicated
PCs [...].

Right - but slow. Sometime around 2020 we will have suitable hardware
in $500 game consoles.

It may well be in reach of a brain@home project. Howver it is not being
tried as far as I can tell, indeed as far as I can tell nobody has any
clue how or where to start.

Therein lies the big difference between AI and molecular
moanufacturing - there are people who have a clue how to start on the
latter.

I don't really see it. Expert systems are all over the place.
My computer can recognise speech pretty well - considering its
CPU is smaller than my thumbnail. We know lots about how to build
AI.

and by my reckoning we'll probably have AI before we get down there.
Whether we need it or not, we will have it - and it will make quite
a difference.

It looks to be in reach today in terms of hardware capability,
software is a big problem. This is why I suggest that it may not turn up on
schedule for nanotech development. Human scale AI is no longer a hardware
problem.

At the very least, computing power for AI has to become cost-
competitive
with human brainpower before it can be widely deployed. It might make
sense for search companies today to invest in AI - e.g. see the
PowerSet
deal - but we may have to wait a decade before it is affordable in
desktops.
So, hardware still seems like an issue to me.
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