Re: Demoderation of sci.nanotech
- From: "William R. Cousert" <wrcousert@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:04:34 -0500
"Jim Logajan" <JamesL@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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John Novak and I feel the time has come to de-moderate this newsgroup,
providing we can convince system administrators to perform the switch.
Removing moderation would of course allow posts to immediately appear on
the group - the group would not disappear. Just the evil censors! ;-)
The reason we wish to remove moderation is fairly simple: moderation
requires at least a daily check for valid postings if one wants to
maintain
a minimum reasonable latency - but there have been little or no postings
to
justify further use of our time or burdening any reasonably qualified
person with such a task.
The e-mail submission address to which posts are sent gets some spam (all
such addresses seem to eventually become targets) and even with spam traps
like Spam Assassin we are forced each day to deal with such posts. (These
are messages directed at the e-mail address itself and would not appear on
the group if it were unmoderated.)
As noted, we are loathe to burden anyone else with moderating a group that
has become so silent yet requires daily attention (through vacations,
sickness, surgery, etc.), yet it seems inappropriate to ask that it be
removed since it still seems to have occasional, if rather rare, use.
Perhaps better days lie ahead.
I will eventually be contacting the "Big-8 Management Board" [1]
(http://www.big-8.org/) and probably the database administrator for the
moderated newsgroup e-mail submission addresses at www.isc.org [2] about
their procedures and requirements for demoderation.
If demoderation is not allowed to be attempted then we feel it would be
better to direct users to other nanotechnology forums on the Internet and
let this newsgroup "go dark" indefinitely without "formally" abandoning
the
group.
[1] The "Big-8 Management Board" holds the only generally accepted
central-
authority authentication key that is included in the newsgroup control
messages that are used to add, remove, and change newsgroups; but Usenet
newsgroup providers are the final authorities on what is carried on the
servers they own, so they are under no obligation to follow what the
"Board's" control messages request.
[2] The ISC is only one of a small number of entities that contains a
canonical list of the e-mail submission addresses for all the moderated
Usenet groups. If the ISC chooses to no longer consider a moderated
newsgroup as moderated, then any Usenet newsgroup provider who chooses to
try and maintain said group as moderated will cause problems for its own
users but typically no one else.
My Vote:
Temporarily abandon sci.nanotech and recommend that users post in
alt.sci.nanotech. Maybe post a reminder message in sci.nanotech once every
month or two.
See what happens with the alt group. Maybe someday there will be enough
traffic to start up sci.nanotech again.
If spam becomes a problem, perhaps the regulars can include some kind of key
in the subject line. Any messages that do not contain this key would be
filtered out by their news readers.
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