Re: experimental verification of electromagnetic mass

From: Guck (marcus4767_at_canada.com)
Date: 09/12/04


Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:25:32 +0000 (UTC)

glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote in message news:<cgprbp$rnl$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>...
> In article <2p2t7kFg5h1kU1@uni-berlin.de>, Satya Das <srdas@adobe.com> wrote:
> >Does any one have a result of experimental verification of electromagnetic
> >mass?
> >Since the existence of electromagnetic mass means a non-zero size of all
> >charged particles, then it must give the radius of charged particles. So
> >what is the size of electron, proton, and other particles?
> >
>
> I forget the numbers, but I remember the conclusion. The classical radius
> of the electron the electron was calculated by finding the self-energy of
> a spherical distribution of charge, and setting the radius so that the
> potenial energy E=m/c^2. And experimentally, that's too big. The
> electron looks like a point particle. The proton has a finite size, but
> it's composed of point particles.

Here's a link that has basics of subatomic particles:
http://hyperphysics.phys-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/parcon.html#c1

What bothers me is that old-fashioned idea of electricity being the
flow of electrons thru a wire from a negative terminal of EMF to the
positive terminal. Obviously electricity is a flow of energy, it
doesn't seem realisitic to imagine that actual physical electrons
travel thru the wire. It's like light-
light is carried by photons, light is carried by an energy
wave/particle
which has no mass , so it must be the same with electricity, because
electricity is supposed to be the same wave/particle composition as
light, simply at a different frequency or wavelength. Light and
electricty are both the same- they are both radiation energies.
So therefore electrons should not be considered as leptons or
fundamental particles because in electricity flow, the negative
charge component of the electron must be able to disassociate into a
"photon" type energy component which is what travels through the wire.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Binding Energy Question
    ... I say that the electron splitting to cross the ... I accept all verified elementary particles scattering ... great solidiity that is the quantum vacuum. ... Newtonian mindset uses simpler logic that is inbued ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: A version of QED without ultraviolet divergences
    ... |> | nobody have seen these virtual particles in experiment. ... or electron charge with energy is one such effect. ... | (potentials) in each order of the perturbation theory. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Aether is the empty space in which the Universe sits
    ... > Any magnetic field in a vacuum is an empty field. ... > composed of magnetically aligned Aether units. ... yet composed of aether particles? ... >> the actual shape of the electron when seen from the perspective ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Quantum Flux
    ... As I understand it traditional magnetism was perceived as lines of flux ... The formal expression says that it is charge that is conserved ... The mass discrepancy between the electron ... Instantiate two point particles in that space. ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: Aether is the empty space in which the Universe sits
    ... > Any magnetic field in a vacuum is an empty field. ... > composed of magnetically aligned Aether units. ... yet composed of aether particles? ... >> the actual shape of the electron when seen from the perspective ...
    (sci.physics)