Re: The electron shell model - is far from being 'The story'

From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 10/28/04 

Date: 28 Oct 2004 00:11:03 -0700

franklinhu@yahoo.com (FrankH) wrote in message news:<46484c9f.0410270843.637d4d89@posting.google.com>...
> maporat@012.net.il (Y.Porat) wrote in message news:<4e35159f.0410262155.149760f2@posting.google.com>...
> > The electron shell model works for light elements
> > yet people do the jump in conclution that once it is good for
> > ligh telements it is good as well for the heavy once!
> >
> > that is not my findings
> > my findings are that that is not right all along for theheavy elements
> > now i wiold like to ask
> > people who know about it (ie not only parroting)
> >
> > what are the elements for which *all* the elctron shells ans subshells
> > are verified experimentally and .......
> >
> > what are those elemnts of the periodic table, for which
> > *not all* the elctron shell model (including all the subshells)-
> > are experimentally verified??
> >
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
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>
>
> I have been researching in this area. I have noted that you can derive
> the standard electron shell structures from just the ionization data.
> If you goto www.webelements.com, they have a graph showing the amount
> of energy required to ionized each electron in the atom. They show up
> to 21 ionization energies. I have charted these by looking at the
> relative difference between the levels (subtract ajoining values to
> find the difference) and charting them on a logarithmic scale which
> brings any large differences in energy level into view. What you do
> see are distinct energy groupings corresponding to the 2 electrons in
> S orbitals, 6 in P orbitals and so on.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Ar/ionz.html
> http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Kr/ionz.html
>
> Tied together, these charts give a continuous view of the energy up to
> Krypton.
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Tank you Franklin for your important information
i will have to study it much more intensive not just a snap look as i did.

may be refere from it that the shell model is not verified
just now much further than Krypton??

may we refere of it that even with the information below Krypton
there are discrapancies??

I am still working on the spread*** containing the data,
> but I can post it if anyone is interested. Curiously, weblements
> doesn't have much data beyond krypton. I was looking for ionziation
> data for Xenon and Radon to fill in the rest of the data, but I cannot
> find it on the web. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to find
> such data?
>
> The data does show anomolies in the energy levels. The P orbitals
> appear as a group of 6 electrons with relatively the same energy level
> difference, but there is an anomoly in that it could be broken up into
> a group of 4 and then the energy level drops significantly, leaving a
> group of 2. I am working on my cubic atomic model to help explain
> these differences.
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i guess that you will have more than diffuculties in explainig it
because acording to my findings
the shell model is not righ tfor heavy elements
btw
my model as i tolsd you is of a sort of a rectangular pipe
of the nuc
so it remids your (i supose) cubic model
only that my 'cubes are connected linearily
*and not something else*
so only in some areas we nmay have some 'overlap' of conclusions
yet my main finding is
that in havy elements
*not all the protons are charged electrically
so it is not posible to find the
one electron for one proton because .....
you cant fing coconuts in the north pole'
because ....
they arnt there!!
i am waiting for more information from you and other members
(it is revolutionary important!)
TIA
Y.Porat
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