Re: What if the higgs don't exist....

From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 10/30/04 

Date: 29 Oct 2004 23:40:46 -0700

jameslandle@yahoo.com (James Landle) wrote in message news:<86901f7b.0410291319.14469475@posting.google.com>...
> http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/8/6/11
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> Why does this new particle (mentioned in the above article) baffle
> scientists? I've been trying to study quantum physics on my own with
> books such as "From Atom to Quarks..." and some questions pop up that
> is not answered in the books... so hope those of you who know more
> updated stuff can share, thanks.
>
> James
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Hi James
do you think that there is no enoumouss efforths to answer your question
and yet ---- no sucess??

i am not against trials and new trials
yet the fact that in spight the enormous efforths
the main body of the massless particle in unverifed-
says sometning.

it sayes that those guys are
'looking for coconuts at the north pole!'

mass cannot be created
it cannot inflate
it cannot shrink
it cannot disappear
so in principle that theory is wrong ie
dead before born
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Y.Porat
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> maporat@012.net.il (Y.Porat) wrote in message news:<4e35159f.0410282146.7572467d@posting.google.com>...
> > mobydikc@gmail.com (Mike Helland) wrote in message news:<11990c07.0410281334.737feb9c@posting.google.com>...
> > > jameslandle@yahoo.com (James Landle) wrote in message news:<86901f7b.0410271453.7dc7595c@posting.google.com>...
> > > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991649
> > > >
> > > > What if the Higgs don't exist. What would be an alternative theory that can
> > > > replace or explain the Standard Model. Anyone got a idea?
> > >
> > > If the Higgs doesn't exist then a likely alternative is that there is
> > > no such thing as a massless particle.
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> > no need to be a genious physicist to tell
> > that there is no particle without mass
> >
> > our senses work om mass detection
> > if we see the photon *it has mass*
> > its more than time for all ashole physicists to realise it
> > that was an invention of matemathicians that has no physics 'touch'
> > the phton deviates next to the sun
> > *because it has mass*
> > if it does not fit your calculations than
> > *fix your fucken calculation* to fit the data.
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> > >
> > > For example, let's say that we take the interpretation of quantum
> > > mechanics that reality is created by observation.
> > >
> > > Ask yourself, how do we observe?
> > >
> > > For the most part, we observe something by interacting with it,
> > > usually electromagnetically, or in other words, usually through the
> > > exchange of photons.
> > >
> > > So if photons are the particle that allows us to observe other
> > > particles, it seems pretty obvious that even if the photon particle
> > > had mass, it isn't likely that we'd be able to observe that.
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> > the photn has mass!
> > i already defined it teorethically it is :
> > it comes out from theorethical considerations.
> > (and theorethic thinking and experimental facts.
> > it is indeed much smaller than our tools as is now to detect
> > but you dont need tools you need a minimal brain!!
> >
> >
> > Phton mass= h/C^2 times 1/time unit
> > it is in the MKS system of units
> > and if right it will be right in any other system of units
> > provided you do it properly.
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> > >
> > > You can't look at a picture and tell me the weight of the camera.
> > >
> > > So if Higgs isn't found, its likely that the idea of a "massless"
> > > particle is flawed from the start.
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> > and time to get ridd of it
> > and the sonner the better ie
> > preventing masive resouses waist!!
> > people who make their living from it will be mad at me ....... so be it ...
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> > Y.Porat
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