Re: Nobel Prize for David Thomson?!

From: Bill Hobba (bhobba_at_rubbish.net.au)
Date: 12/27/04


Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:53:11 GMT


"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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> "Franz Heymann" <notfranz.heymann@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:cqnen0$t5$3@titan.btinternet.com...
> > Your understanding of gravitation is at least as flawed as your
> > understanding of the rest of physics.
> > Guess what! The gravitational force acts on energy.
>
> Your understanding of energy is at least as flawed as your understanding
of
> the rest of physics. Guess what! Energy is merely a unit of work.

Learn some 20th century physics - energy is the conserved Noether current
associated with time symmetry. See
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath564/kmath564.htm.

> There
> is nothing for gravitational force to act on. You might as well say that
> force acts on velocity and resistance.

First gravity is not a force - it is space-time curvature. Secondly who
said it acts on anything? - light is 'curved' by gravity for precisely the
same reason it travels in straight lines in an inertial frame.

>
> The gravitational force can act only on mass.
>

Assuming by acts you mean it follows a curved path when gravity is present
then experiment shows it does.

> Now, even according to your
> understanding of physics, the photon has zero mass. If the photon has
zero
> mass, then it has zero energy, because energy is equal to mass times the
> speed of light squared, as you see it.

See
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html.
In units c = 1 E2 = M2 + P2. Now when M = 0 what does that make E? - even
an idiot like you should be able to figure that one out - but judging from
what you write maybe not.

>
> >> Now if you really
> >> wanted to know how light bends around massive objects, you might ask
> >> me for the answer, because I have it.
> >
> > Too late. I already know that light travels along a geodesic.
>
> No you don't. Your physics has denied the existence of Aether. There is
> nothing for you to call a geodesic.

I guess the principle of maximal time is all in physicists imagination
then - even when it is simply a generalization of Newton's first law. Hey
David why do free particles move at constant velocity in an inertial
frame? - is that because of your marvelous aether as well? - after all there
is nothing compelling it to do that is there? something must cause it? - so
I guess classical mechanics is up the creek as well. We are obviously in a
real bad way - or maybe, just maybe, here is a wild idea - you have no idea
what you are talking about.

Bill

> But if you are going to accept the
> geodesic, then you have to accept the full quantification of the Aether
and
> the laws of physics that results from it. In that case, I have the
correct
> explanation for how the geodesic forms.
>
> >> As for dark matter, it exists mainly near massive objects. There is
> > more
> >> dark matter near Earth than there is in the emptiness of space. But
> > it
> >> can't be detected because dark matter exists outside of the Aether.
> > The
> >> Aether is what gives structure to the angular momentum of dark
> > matter by
> >> imparting the qualities of charges to it.
> >
> > You don't know what you are talking about.
>
> You just enjoy knocking people. How many times have you told someone that
> they didn't have a theory until they could quantify it? Now that I have
> presented a fully quantified Aether Physics Model, why don't you take the
> time to read it?
>
> Dave
>
>



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