Re: Question: If your body is made of baryons...

From: Paul Hollister (Hollister_at_Origin-of-Universe.com)
Date: 03/26/05 

Date: 25 Mar 2005 21:48:09 -0800

"George Dishman" <george@briar.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Paul Hollister" <Hollister@Origin-of-Universe.com> wrote in message
> news:d1j4mh$dff$1@news-nth.ocn.ad.jp...
>> In real time! How long did it take for all the baryons (Protons and
>> neutrons) in your physical body and Planet Earth and the Milky Way
Galaxy
>> to be materialized into existence?
>
> Much less than one second

As a hematologist, I am accustomed to looking at the physical universe
face to face and through the microscope rather than through the lenses
of mathematical abstraction. When trying to conceptualize the process
of baryonogenesis in relationship to physical actuality, it helps me to
look at the total sum of baryons in terms that my physical senses can
comprehend. As a starting point, therefore, to conceptually visualize
the magnitude of baryonogenesis in real physical terms, can you help me
calculate by weight in a 100 kg man how much of the physical body is
composed of baryons? As a mathematician and astrophysicist, you can do
this much better than I can but I'll make an initial estimate by using
the mass of a proton to represent all baryons. The human body is
composed of cells and intercellular matrix that consists of atomic
molecular structure. Total body weight therefore is composed of the
baryons (protons and neutrons) and electrons that form its atomic
molecular structure. The mass of a proton is approximately 1836 times
that of an electron, and each atomic nucleus contains almost the entire
mass of the atom. Reciprocally, the mass of electron can be derived
(1/1836 x 100 = 0.055). With one electron for each proton in the human
body, body weight x 0.055 = total electron mass, and body weight -
electron mass = baryonic mass of human body. If I am calculating this
correctly, the baryonic mass of a 150 kg man = 141.75 Kg and electron
mass = 8.25 kg. Therefore 94.5% of human body weight (141.75/150 x 100)
is the baryonic weight of a human being, and this 94.5% of the human
body is said to have materialized into physical existence within ONE
SECOND, according to the Standard Big Bang Model. Help me out with this
if I am making a significant mathematical error, such as the amount of
mass loss that occurs through atomic nuclear fusion.

Now with the baryonic weight of an average human being in mind as a
starting point, I can conceptually visualize the proportionate amount
of baryonic mass of Planet Earth and the Milky Way Galaxy, which is
likewise said to have all materialized into physical existence within
ONE SECOND.
Now we can extrapolate and apply this proportion of baryonic mass to
the 100 billion galaxies that are directly visible through the Hubble
and Chandra telescopes and ask ourselves whether we really believe that
the total baryonic mass of the billions of stars in each of the 100
billion galaxies actually materialized into physical existence in less
than ONE SECOND! Doesn't this seem rather magical?
Why is it decided that all the baryons in the entire physical universe
were materialized into actual physical existence within ONE SECOND?
This is unbelievable! This is no less magical than the original Book of
Genesis!

There is another possibility that can account for the creation of
baryons in the universe. And it is exploding into evidence right in
front of our eyes! Rather than the entire physical universe exploding
into baryonic existence within ONE SECOND, the baryonic mass of the
surrounding visible universe could potentially evolve from an Ongoing
Big-Bang process that is clearly in evidence within the greatest
supermassive densities causing the most powerful ongoing explosions in
the entire physical universe: The Quasar!
Think about this for a moment because the theory fits the facts. When
the supermassive gravitational density of the Quasar is modeled as the
physical site of Ongoing "Big-Bang" quark-gluon fusion into the
atomic nucleus of hydrogen (baryonogenesis), hydrogen in plasma form is
jettisoned from the quasar into surrounding regional space. As a
morphologist, by following the jettison of hydrogen outward I have been
able to define the entire Mainstream Sequence of Galaxy Evolution. The
following hyperlink illustrates the Mainstream Sequence of Galaxy
Evolution and describes how the galaxy grows and evolves from inside
outward from Quasar to Radio Galaxy to Elliptical Galaxy to Spiral
Galaxy (http://www.origin-of-universe.com/#Galaxy_Evolution).

>
>> http://www.Origin-of-Universe.com
>
> "With the single exception of hydrogen,
> the other atoms are formed by nuclear
> fusion in the stars."
>
> That is not true. About 25% of the initial
> nucleosynthesis products would be Helium.
>

Since when does a scientific theory define what is true and "not
true"? It is scientific investigation that defines what is true and
not true. The sentence you have quoted, which introduces a new
scientific paradigm concerning galaxy evolution, simply states that
hydrogen is not formed in the stars. I then introduce evidence showing
that the quasar is the site of hydrogen nucleosynthesis.
In response to the second of five questions by Steve Willner about the
Ongoing Big-Bang Model, I have previously summarized how, when and
where deuterium and helium nucleosynthesis occur in this new paradigm
of universe evolution:
(Professor Willner's second question about the Ongoing Big-Bang Model
for galaxy and universe evolution, from sci.astro at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/17e1df8cbc15eacb):

2) "What abundances do you derive for deuterium, helium-3, and
helium-4, and how do those abundances change with time?"

Hydrogen accounts for 73 percent of the observed mass of the universe
and is the most common element in the universe. Helium accounts for
about 25 percent of the mass of the universe and is the second most
common element. All mainstream sequence stars in the universe
(Hertzsprung-Russell diagram) are predominantly composed of hydrogen.
All newborn stars throughout the universe are ignited into visible
existence by the thermonuclear fusion of hydrogen into helium.
Throughout much of their life span (mainstream sequence of stellar
evolution), thermonuclear fusion of hydrogen into helium continues to
occur in the stars. In the Standard Big Bang Model, all the hydrogen
and most of the deuterium, helium-3 and helium-4 in the universe were
created within 3 MINUTES following the mathematical point of beginning
of Big Bang. In the Ongoing Big-Bang Model, the nucleosynthesis of
hydrogen is produced inside the supermassive thermal and gravitational
density conditions of the quasar. This Ongoing Big-Bang nucleosynthesis
of hydrogen results directly in the formation of the quasar's
circumnuclear torus and cosmic plasma jets of proton-electron plasma,
as described under Question #1 above. The circumnuclear torus
surrounding the quasar is composed of proton-electron plasma (hydrogen)
under enormous temperature and gravitational density conditions that
result in accelerated nuclear fusion of deuterium, helium-3 and
helium-4 and atomic elements that are in evidence immediately around
the quasar and within the active galactic nucleus (AGN) region of the
galaxy. The following hyperlink contains detailed description and
testable predictions of this Ongoing Big-Bang process that results in
atomic nucleosynthesis and AGN evolution: Chapter 12 -- Quasar and AGN
Evolution, section -- Ongoing Big-Bang Alignment of Quasars and
Circumnuclear AGNs (page 149, CD Edition)
(http://www.origin-of-universe.com/chapters/chapter_12.htm).
 The following excerpt from the hyperlink describes how accelerated
nuclear fusion immediately around the quasar forms atoms of higher
atomic weight and gives rise to the active galactic nucleus (AGN)
region of the galaxy:

"As the quasar matures, the environment around the quasar evolves
from two separate but simultaneous and closely interrelated processes,
each of which have their own unique regional rate of evolution: 1) The
quasar's radio jets account for the accumulative formation of the
galaxy's radio structure and hydrogen atmosphere that results in the
starburst growth and evolution of the optical galaxy, as previously
described, which accounts for the evolution of the elliptical galaxy.
2) The quasar's plasma torus accounts for the evolution of the
circumnuclear environment around the quasar, which over time evolves
into the galaxy's visible active galactic nucleus (AGN), which in
turn accounts for the massive materialization of circumnuclear galaxy
dust and morphological evolution of the spiral galaxy. The astronomical
temperature conditions and massive amounts of hydrogen produced by the
Big-Bang process of quark-gluon fusion within the quasar account for
the sequential formation of the circumnuclear plasma torus and
resulting materialization and fueling of the AGN. Within the
thermonuclear inferno of the AGN is where the massive amounts of higher
atomic-molecular weight dust is formed that is responsible for
gradually reshaping the galaxy from spherical to elliptical to spiral
form. Whereas the increasing volume and size of the elliptical stages
of optical galaxy evolution are largely due to the radio jets and rain
of hydrogenous matter throughout the space of the galaxy, the
increasing ellipticity (E0-E7) of the galaxy and transformation from
elliptical to spiral galaxy form (S0) and progressive increase in the
total atomic-molecular dust and mass of the spiral stages (Sa-Sc) of
galaxy evolution are primarily the result of events taking place in the
circumnuclear AGN."

I have stressed throughout the treatise that the quasar is the site of
hydrogen nucleosynthesis because this is the key to recognizing that
the galaxies have materialized and grown from inside outward into their
range of visible morphologies (Mainstream Sequence of Galaxy
Evolution). Whereas deuterium and helium can result from nuclear fusion
within the circumnuclear region around the quasar, and within the AGN
region, and within the stars, hydrogen nucleosynthesis can only occur
within the quasar! This is the key by which I was able to define the
mainstream sequence of galaxy evolution: Quasars make hydrogen! From
this perspective, the origin of the Intergalactic Medium and the Lyman
alpha forest can be looked at in a new light. (To avoid any
misunderstanding or confusion about what constitutes the Standard Big
Bang Model perspective see Professor Bill Keel's excellent
essay about Quasars, AGN and Lyman Alpha Forest at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/agn/).

Within the Intergalactic Medium, from Ongoing Big-Bang perspective, all
hydrogen can be traced directly to Ongoing Big-Bang nucleosynthesis
within the quasar. Accelerated nuclear fusion of deuterium, helium-3
and helium-4 can occur in the circumnuclear region around the quasar
and AGN region of the galaxy. The presence of ionized helium (He II)
within the Lyman alpha forest can be the result of intragalactic
nuclear fusion or the result of helium being carried outward as a minor
component of the jets. The process of baryonogenesis within the quasar
and nuclear fusion within its circumnuclear torus occurs in sequence
from quark-gluon plasma to hydrogen to deuterium to helium-3 to
helium-4. Whether or not a fractional portion of helium can be
jettisoned into intergalactic space rather than confined to the
circumnuclear torus and AGN region would depend in part on where
deuterium and helium nucleosynthesis begins in relationship to the
formation of the quasar's circumnuclear torus and plasma jets. If
helium nucleosynthesis begins to occur after the formation of the
plasma jets, there should be no significant levels of intergalactic He
II. If helium nucleosynthesis begins to occur within the circumnuclear
torus, intergalactic jettison of He would be potentially possible. If
helium nucleosynthesis begins to occur proximal to the formation of the
circumnuclear torus, more He could be jettisoned into intergalactic
space.

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