Re: Experimental disproof of the theory of Relativity

From: Ballisticus (B_at_..(Ballisticus))
Date: 06/24/04


Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:25:30 GMT

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:32:00 -0700, "Cozmo Man" <cozmologist@scientist.com>
wrote:

>Ballisticus wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:34:02 -0700, "Cozmo Man"
>> <cozmologist@scientist.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
>>>> "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts@lucent.com> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:SotBc.26826$eH1.12464085@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>> Bill Rowe wrote:
>>>>>> In article <k1acd093depf36ka89rpoqo809omgtqdjv@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> There is experimental evidence to show the round trip speed of
>>>>>> light is c in vacuum no matter what direction is chosen. There
>>>>>> is no experimental evidence to indicate the one way speed is any
>>>>>> different than c.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's stronger than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> OWLS can only be measured after one DEFINES what "simultaneous"
>>>>> means, so one can synchronize the two clocks necessary for an
>>>>> OWLS measurement. But one can DEFINE it however one likes, and
>>>>> obtain different values for OWLS.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words: TWLS by itself has meaning; OWLS only has meaning
>>>>> relative to a specified synchronization procedure. TWLS is
>>>>> independent of human choices (except for units), OWLS depends
>>>>> upon an arbitrary human choice for clock synchronization (in
>>>>> addition to the same choice of units).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In Two Way LS you need one clock.
>>>> In One Way LS you need two clocks which have to be synchronised.
>>>> My understanding is that if you synchronise those two clocks
>>>> by means of a light signal from a point half way in between those
>>>> two clocks that
>>>> (1) the time difference dt1 measured in OWLS is the same
>>>> in both directions and that
>>>> (2) 2 times dt1 is equal to the time difference dt2 measured in
>>>> TWLS
>>>>
>>>
>>> You miss the point that was stated above. The synchronization
>>> procedure used for the two clocks in your one way light speed
>>> measurements affects the outcome of those measurements. Different
>>> synchronization procedures can give radically different measurment
>>> results.
>>>
>>
>> We all know that Cozmo. Crawl back into the cosmos please.
>>
>> There is only one way to synch clocks.. while they are together.
>> Once perfect clocks are in synch, they remain in synch no matter
>> how you move them.
>
>Are you perhaps a blood relation to Androcles?
>

No. He's a bloody Greek. I'm a Roman, sir.


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