Re: Einstein Unravelled; Effectuationism and Value

From: Bill Hobba (bhobba_at_rubbish.net.au)
Date: 06/24/04


Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:30:45 GMT


"Peter Kinane" <pkinane@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> "Bill Hobba" <bhobba@rubbish.net.au> wrote in message
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> > "Peter Kinane" <pkinane@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> > > "Bill Hobba" <bhobba@rubbish.net.au> wrote in message
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> > > > "Peter Kinane" <pkinane@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> > > > > > "Peter Kinane" <pkinane@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > > > > > Inferentially, indefinite and dynamic relational force value
> > effects
> > > > > > > multi-facetedly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See above.
> > > > >
> > > > > It means that different forces, or if you prefer events through
> > > > > different FORs, effect different values- -effects.
> > > >
> > > > In physics F = MA. If you mean something else by force then your
not
> > > > dealing with physics.
> > >
> > > And tell me about the generation of force or mass acceleration; is it
> > > through the relationship of forces?
> >
> > Forces can be caused by all sorts of things - mechanics does not specify
> > what the cause is - just that when a force is present we can find a
cause.
> > This is grade 8 Newtonian mechanics that should have been sorted out
very
> > early on in your education. If you still have not grasped that read
chapter
> > 12 Volume 1 Feynman Lecture on Physics - in fact you should closely
study
> > the whole volume.
> >
> > > And if so, do different causal forces effect different MA?
> >
> > F = MA - they are the same thing - that is what equals means. Force
does
> > not cause MA force is MA - again I can only refer you to your early
> > education and the reference above.
> >
> > > And if so, in what way is that principle
> > > different to:
> > > "It means that different forces, or if you prefer events through
> > > different FORs, effect different values- -effects." ?
> >
> > The above is obviously a nonsense statement that only you understand.
Learn
> > to express yourself better.
> >
> > >
> > > And if there are different aspects- -faces to an interaction - or some
> > > such - then perhaps that principle is best stated as above:
> > > "Inferentially, indefinite and dynamic relational force[- -]value
> > > effects multi-facetedly".
> >
> > A lot of ifs here - before attempting to fit physics into your
philosophy
> > why not try learning some physics? It is obvious your understanding is
very
> > limited.
> >
>
> How are you doing now Bill; making any progress with it?

Some

>
>
> Bill, my post, probably because you have a closed mind, was wasted on
> you, and 'you have a charming way of revealing it'. Further to this,
> here news:20040622194923.137$Y0@news.newsreader.com... you took a
> chance and implied that Cosmo Man was being sarcastic.
>
> I should, with regret, therefore urge you to disclose the philosophy
> system to which you subscribe - that people may note it.

None explicitly. And if you think that is a failing I refer you to the
writings of Feynman.

Bill

>
>
> 'Thanks' for the two further posts.
>
> --
> Peter Kinane
> http://www.effectuationism.com/



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