Re: Science and philosophy

From: Attio (fjhh_at_mail.ru)
Date: 07/18/04 

Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:31:52 +0400

Hello, Franco!

 ??>> as a discipline by Universities world wide and the word philosophy is
 ??>> defined in the dictionary besides.
 F> At university they teach "history" of philosophy(plato, aristotle,
 F> kant and so on). You are confusing "history" of philosophy with
"philosophy".
Some philosophers would say, that the best way to teach a subject is to tell
it's history.
So, "history" of philosophy may coincide with "philosophy".

 F> Philosophy nowadays is SCIENCE. Philosophy is a mere reasoning.
 F> Science use observation, experiment, mathematics and so on.
And philosophy may tell you, what is "observation", "experiment", and so on.
There are millions of ways to tell about the same phenomenon, that you've
observed. What if I shall very carefully describe dust on the devices during
an experiment on nuclea phisics? Or count the number of times the scientists
sneezed? How do you define, what is related to the experiment, and what is
not?

 F> We have not a discipline called "philosophy", we have "history" of
 F> philosophy at universtity.
Maybe just because defining a discipline means defining it's postulates,
and that's exactly where philosophy ends?

 F> But that physics WORKS nowadays. And that history is good nowadays.
 F> Besides, physics have an object, "nature". Philosophy no.
Following your way of thought:

 F> Philosophy means "loving knowledge". And as I said, nowadays scientists
 F> love knowledge, and that knowledge is the best that we have.
What is your criteria for dividing knowledge on good one and bad one?

 F> Philosophy includes: mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology,
psychology,
 F> politics, art and so on.
Philosophy exists before defining the disciplines, and "above" them.

 F> We recognize that science has got a METHOD. Nobody wouldn't
 F> dream to say that science is a discpline!!
OK. Every method presupposes some purpose. Is there any other purpose, for
which scientific method is not suitable?

1. If your answer is 'no', then, i guess, you have a solid proof for it,
perhaps mathematical one. Can you show us the proof?

2. If your answer is 'yes', then you have admitted that there may be other
purpuses that people can have, and that cannot be achieved by scientific
methods. If so, science is not enough for us!

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