Re: Big Bang Baloney....or scientific cult?

From: Ole D. Rughede (ole.rughede_at_privat.dk)
Date: 07/22/04 

Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:52:31 +0200

"Info Plumber" <infoplmr@nb.sympatico.ca> skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> "Ralph Hertle" <ralph.hertle@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
> > The universe is eternal. Every scientific discovery, demonstration, and
> > proof done in all of history validates the existence of the existents
> > being examined in the observations and experiments, and taken together
> > by the use of inductive logic, the fact of continuity can be inferred
> > and then validated .
>
> My intuition says that anything that is expanding at a more-or-less
constant
> rate (or accelerating rate) must have been a singularity at some time in
the
> past. Your statement above seems more like existential philosophy than
hard
> science. There are few things in cosmology that have as much hard,
> scientific validation as the "big bang".
>

You intuitional feeling of big bang validation has
nothing to do with physics.
> >
> > The Big Bang is not a matter of social agreement, i.e., where you say,
> > "...why can't we agree...?" No. The universe exists and it exists
> > eternally as it does exist continually in all its parts.
>
> I guess I made the mistake of assuming that we were already all in
agreement
> on the fact of the "Initial Expansion", if not on the best terminology to
> describe it. I would have thought that was obvious from the "setting sun"
> analogy that I used.
>
We are certainly not "all in agreement" of any "fact" of
'Initial Expansion'. What should be the "fact"?

> >
> > To claim that the existence of the universe is a matter of social
> > agreement is also to say that the universe is not existing eternally or
> > continuously, and that is to say that cause and effect are not operative
> > in the universe.
>
> You are correct if your meaning is that you can't legislate the laws of
> physics, and I certainly did not mean to imply such an idea.
>
Who gave the laws of physics man may have found?
They existed long before man!
> >
> > The Big Bang theory is total hokum.
>
> Are you trolling me??
>
> IP
> >
> > Ralph Hertle
> >
>
Big bang stories relate to a phantasy world of trolls and fairies.
Should be found in Disney Land, Disney films and fairy tales.
Speculations about the Creation of the Universe are not the
subject of physics.

Ole D. Rughede

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