Re: Big Bang Baloney....or scientific cult? [ Apparent Red Shift ]

From: Ralph Hertle (ralph.hertle_at_verizon.net)
Date: 07/22/04 

Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:53:13 GMT

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"Ralph Hertle" <ralph.hertle@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> The universe is eternal. Every scientific discovery, demonstration,
and proof done in all of history validates the existence of the
existents being examined in the observations and experiments, and taken
together by the use of inductive logic, the fact of continuity can be
inferred and then validated.<<

[you say:]

> My intuition says that anything that is expanding at a more-or-less
constant rate (or accelerating rate) must have been a singularity at
some time in the past. Your statement above seems more like existential
philosophy than hard science. There are few things in cosmology that
have as much hard, scientific validation as the "big bang".<

Intuition is not science, it is projection and wishing, just to mention
some of the possible notions.

The inference of a mathematical origin point for the claimed expansion
of the universe seemed plausible based of the application of the Doppler
  Effect to the data of the Apparent Red Shift. It did seem that the
emitters of light were moving away from Earth and, by deduction, from
one another. The Hubble 'balloon' theory was offered.

The corresponding dots on successive balloons when the dots are
connected via, would you believe, Euclidean, straight lines, and the
lines extended toward a common point [as a an Aristotelian Formal Cause]
seemed to imply a common origin point. That is an example of the fallacy
of application. and the 'balloon' physics that has resulted in the worst
conceptual machinations ever created in physics.

The Doppler-Hubble theory was a convenient way for the "must have-ist"
religionist creationists to shore up there Biblical creation theory.
That is not science - the 'balloon' theory is religion. The
creationist-religionists have made it a point that cause and effect, and
that means facts and logic, will not be operative in that area of science.

What the discoverers of the Apparent Red Shift did accomplish was to
identify and measure a unique phenomenon in the universe. They were wise
enough to not immediately conjecture any guesswork causes. Any Ancient
Greek concepts, i.e., a straight line, or the extension of a straight
line, Circular Motion, Rectilinear Motion, or dimensional locomotion,
were simply insufficient to explain the physical cause of the phenomenon
of the Apparent Red Shift of light photons.

The 'balloon' theory and the application of the acoustic Doppler Effect
did not provide a causal explanation of the shifts of the frequencies of
photons traveling from the more distant objects. The nature of light
wasn't known, and the actual physical cause(s) that modified the
photon-waves in some way was not at all known.

The interposition of the 'Balloon' and BB theory so enamored the
religionist-creationists that those scientists failed to ask the
appropriate questions that would have been, and still are, necessary to
ask in order to identify the causes of the Apparent Red Shift data.

All except Lord Rayleigh, that is. That is a chapter of science that the
religionist-creationists are hiding under the complexities of a rug of
mysticism. He found a truly scientific cause and effect relationship
between photons, hydrogen atoms, and the Apparent Red Shift. He found in
controlled laboratory experiments that the energy level of photons was
decreased upon collisions with hydrogen atoms. The frequency of the
photons was proportionately lowered.

Those experiments can be redone, and they are perfect problems for
college level experimentation. The designs of the experiments can be
improved and modern apparatus and measuring equipment may be used.

The causes of the Apparent Red Shift can be rediscovered and
demonstrated right in the laboratory, and true scientific theories can
be checked, validated, and refined.

Only religious and politically correct obstructionism can prevent the
tradition of facts and logic in science to be advanced.

Scientists may ask what is it in the hydrogen atom that causes the
reduction of the photon energy level discovered by Rayleigh? Is it the
electron? The emissions of gravitons previously absorbed by the atom?
Or of some other effect that in some way at that time and conditions is
related to the hydrogen atom?

Forget the Euclidean geometric origin point that the
religionist-creationists have foisted upon us.

Instead, ask the real questions: what happens to photons in their
travels through space to cause the lowering of their energy levels. If
collisions or the intercession of other causes are at work, it may be
found that the universe is not at all expanding, that there was no BB,
that the Apparent Red Shift will have been explained in terms of
physical cause and effect, that the cause of gravity may also be
explained as an integral cause, that the red shift varies due to the
differences of densities of hydrogen atoms or the different flux
densities of radiant gravitons in space, and that the universe is
considerably smaller than previously estimated.

Due to religion the theory that no physicist seems to be advancing is
that the universe continually exists as plurality, and that it is made
of a myriad of parts.

Ralph Hertle

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