Re: Gravity?

From: ted holden (uwbear_at_verizon.net)
Date: 07/26/04 

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:36:12 GMT

dh_ld@nomail.com wrote:

> A guy was discussing his theory of "gravity" with me today.
> He believes that it is not a force, but an effect. He believes
> that what we interpret as gravity is really the effect of
> sub-atomic particles on larger bodies. They exert force on
> larger bodies. Those which bombard us without first passing
> through a larger object like a planet, have a greater effect
> on us than those which do first pass through a larger object.
> The effect is that they push us onto the larger object. He
> believes that is why some gravitational theories don't work
> for sub-atomic particles. Is it a possibility?

The main key to gravity is that it propagates instantaneously to within our
ability to measure it while, at the same time, no cause/effect relationship
can actually be instantaneous without violating one of the most fundamental
principles of science, i.e. causality.

What is needed in the picture for any new theory of gravity is something
which is "almost instantaneous". In Ralph Sansbury's scheme of things, the
thing which occupies that position is the sub-electron particle; the
computed necessary speed of such a thing would be on the order of 10^22
m/sec, i.e. it would span galactic distances in seconds rather than aeons.
Sansbury arrived at this notion via experiments which indicate that
individual electrons act as electrostatic dipoles under certain conditions;
the idea is that having such a subtron particle flying in an elliptical
orbit, which would be caused by currents and other phenomena, would produce
such a dipole in an individual electron.

You might find my little book on the subject of gravity interesting.

               
                       
                       Dinosaurs, Gravity,
               and Changing Scientific Paradigms

                       by Theodore Holden

Is it possible that a relatively simplistic finding from the realm
of the weightlifting sports might have overthrown part or all of the
theory of relativity? Could it be that Albert Einstein needed to be
spending more time in the gym and less time conducting "thought
experiments"? Is much of what we have called cosmology and physics
for the last hundred years built upon a foundation of sand?

Given Isaac Newton's and Albert Einstein's descriptions of gravity,
one should not anticipate reading about the USAF and its major
contractors such as Boeing conducting experiments in superconductor
technology with the stated purpose of a local reduction in gravity,
or having a standard sort of government acronym GRASP (Gravity
Reduction and Advanced Space Propulsion) for such a project.
Likewise, given the standard descriptions of gravity, there should be
no way in which to believe that a large-scale change in gravity
near the Earth's surface might have taken place within the last
10,000 years; nonethless, it is easy to demonstrate that it has.

Topics covered include the question of a change in gravity having
brought about the end of the large dinosaurs as well as the large
ice-age animals which died out around 12,000 years ago by standard
dating schemes, the actual antiquity of the dinosaur age, the nature
of gravity itself, relativity, the theories of Ralph Sansbury dealing
with gravity and light, the question of the role of static electrical
phenomena in antique religious practices, and the question of human
language prior to the flood described in the bible and in other
antique literature.

Available as POD (Print on Demand) paperback and as an ebook at:

http://www.bearfabrique.org/books/books.html

Snapshots from the recent Japanese documentary on the topic of gravity
changes:

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/index.htm

Also new and of interest:

                     THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS

THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS, by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, is the
first in a series of volumes presenting a convergence of ancient
testimony, laboratory experiments, and space age discovery. The authors
contend that electrical phenomena, associated with global catastrophe on
Earth, have shaped the evolution of our solar system. But their tale is
not set in geologically remote times. They claim that earthshaking
events occurred so RECENTLY as to have profoundly affected the human
species. The cross-cultural patterns of the great civilizations are a
testament to events the theoretical sciences have yet to recognize.

At the core of this reconstruction is the unique behavior of plasma, the
newly-discovered sea of charged particles through which all celestial
bodies move. All bodies in space except for rocky planets, moons and
other debris (meteorites, asteroids, comets), are constituted of plasma,
they should interact according to the observed laws of plasma behavior.
>>From these discoveries, a new approach to the understanding of the
physical universe is opening up. This approach, called plasma cosmology,
is not entirely new -- its foundations span more than a hundred years of
plasma research, including that of Nobel Laureate Hannés Alfvén.

Plasma cosmology is the most persuasive challenge to popular theories in
astronomy today, and the authors of THUNDERBOLTS see this new
perspective as a bridge between the ancient and modern worlds. The
authors claim that globally recurring symbols and pictographs of the sky
are, in fact, intense electric discharges, scaled-up versions of
phenomena seen in plasma laboratory experiments. On earth, human beings
carved millions of unexplained pictures on stone, and the laboratory
experiments make clear that these artists were copying spectacular
electrical phenomena in the heavens. These discharges appeared as
gigantic, metamorphosing formations in the sky ? the shape-shifting
monsters, gods, goddesses, and heroes of the myth-making epoch.

For more than three decades, Talbott and Thornhill have each been major
contributors to the field of modern catastrophism. Talbott was publisher
of Pensée magazine's "Immanuel Velikovsky Reconsidered" series in the
early seventies, provoking a surge of international interest in the
Velikovsky question. He then offered his own reconstruction of the past
in THE SATURN MYTH (Doubleday, 1980). His hypothesis was later depicted
in the 90-minute documentary, "Remembering the End of the World."

Thornhill has delivered numerous presentations on the "electric
universe" at symposia and workshops in the United States and abroad. His
CD, "The Electric Universe," was published in 1998, and his website at
www.holoscience.com, with its challenge to mainstream science, continues
to be popular.

As their first volume is being completed, the authors intend to publish
a series of full color monographs, representing material to be included
in the first three volumes. Each monograph will be accompanied by a
30-minute DVD designed to give a broad overview of the subject.

The Introduction and Chapter One of the first color monograph can be
viewed at--

http://www.thunderbolts.info

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