Re: Is special relativity falsifiable?

From: Marcel Luttgens (mluttgens_at_wanadoo.fr)
Date: 07/27/04


Date: 27 Jul 2004 14:32:17 -0700


"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<HutNc.619$wz.405@fed1read01>...
> Dear Marcel Luttgens:
>
> "Marcel Luttgens" <mluttgens@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:86996cba.0407270441.1cddd0e0@posting.google.com...
> ...
> > Let's now forget the object P and its clock, and consider only
> > two objects A and B leaving each other in opposite directions,
> > at the same velocity v, after having sychronized their clocks to 0.
> > According to SR, observer A arrived at a distance d from B
> > will claim that tB = tA * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), but, in his frame of
> > reference, observer B is perfectly right (sic) to claim that
> > tB = tA * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)!
> > This can rightly be called a hoax, because both clocks keep ticking
> > at the same rate, meaning that neither A nor B can observe a
> > time "dilation" on the other's clock.
>
> Incorrect. During the trip, A and B see each other's clocks go slower
> "away", same rate while parallel, and faster "towards". You are making
> assumptions about instantaneous communications between frames A and B.
>

False, as shown by the H&K experiment. No need for instantaneous
communications, a red herring.
 
> > Conclusively, this "aircrafts thought experiment" falsifies SR.
>
> It shows only that your understanding is flawed.

Your primitive reaction shows that you are unable to think beyond SR.

>
> It is considered to be impolite to top post, as you have done to Mr.
> Roberts. Since you did not even respond to him, though perhaps you only
> left his previous response in to catch his attention.

I couldn't respond before, since I just found the thread.
Please let Tom Roberts give his certainly more appropriate answer,
it would be more polite.

>
> David A. Smith

Marcel Luttgens



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