Re: A challenge to non-SRians

From: Myxococcus xanthus (mold-guardian_at_comcast.net)
Date: 08/02/04 

Date: 2 Aug 2004 10:36:14 -0700

dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote in message news:<slrncgs819.ok.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net>...
>Myxococcus xanthus:
>>"greywolf42" <mingstb@marssim-ss.com> wrote in message
>>news:<10gnufp2ctkrm97@corp.supernews.com>...
>>
>>> Here's the simplest that I can think of (it may need to be more
>>> complex, depending upon your win/lose criterion).
>>>
>>> A source of light pulses will be located at a position (S).
>>> There will be a
>>> target/detector/reflector (T) placed a long distance away (some
>>> miles). Each location will have a recording clock, synchronized
>>> to the GPS time (no e-synching allowed). A light pulse will be
>>> sent from the source to the target and back (at least two
>>> 'bounces'*). The arrival times will be
>>> recorded. The orientation of the source-target will be changed,
>>> or duplicated with other source-receiver combinations.
>>
>>To minimize cost, you want to go with COTS test equipment as much as
>>possible, renting as much as possible.
>>
>>Please supply an equipment list, suppliers, and estimated cost.
>
> It should cost very little. Just about everything required could
> be programmed into a few microcontrollers at less than $5.00/controller.
> Maybe $10.00 for one with a good D/A converter. Programmers can built
> for less that $20.00 and the software required can be obtained without
> any cost at all. That leaves very little in the way of test equipment
> required and with a reasonable deposit, I can loan a scope, at least
> one pulser, a function generator, about a half-dozen power supplies,
> a couple of dvm's and a few other miscellaneous odds and ends,

That sounds great! I'd even be willing to chip in a modest amount of
money, maybe $20, to see this done. There should be enough interest in
this newsgroup to collect the funds in $10-$20 increments to help set
up the experiment. Of course, Greywolf needs to put up $1000.

We need an escrow agent and money handler, somebody who could be
trusted by both sides.

> though
> I doubt I'll ever really have to worry about anything materializing.

There are several problems, besides the obvious ones, that need to be
overcome.
1) First of all, I doubt that Greywolf has the electronics expertise
to conduct the experiment himself, so he'd have to trust somebody like
you to set up and perform the experiment. Would he be willing to trust
you?
2) "Secret identities" need to be revealed. People like Greywolf and
you have been very careful to hide your true identities. However, I
don't see how a contract could be written up without revealing your
identities to Paul and to at least one other person who would need to
act as witness.

Myxococcus xanthus

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