Re: Colllapse of the wave equation - not!

From: nightbat (nightbat_at_home.ffni.com)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:50:14 -0500

nightbat wrote

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
> "Greysky" <greyskynospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:X5sPc.5552$AY5.3263@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > This problem has been seemingly one of the largest conceptual problems of
> > the quantum physics. How a 'probability wave' can be in a superposition of
> > states, essentially an infinite number of states, yet somehow collapse to
> > only one outcome when observed with our various apparatus.
>
> You have a wave function that can be used to calculate the
> probabilities of the various outcomes of some experiment.
> After the experiment the outcome is known and you have
> another wave function.
> Someone decided to call this "the collapse of the wavefunction".
>
> Dirk Vdm

nightbat

        Gentlemen, with no personal disrespect, you two however are
beginning to sound like elusive mystical guru's instead of profound
scientific regular posting investigators. There is a difference between
imaginary and physical reactions, that which is real from that which is
virtual or imagined. One can collapse to self deduced mental
observations or desires as perceived reality or experience and note, if
wise, submit to peer process for ascertaining possible real ones from
purely illusory ones and, if not objective peer correlated, perhaps
confuse or not always be able to distinguish between real. Pull back,
one must learn to pull back from the mental deep, and total simple self
reliance on purely theoretical or exacting higher level mathematics,
even initial face observations, as no safe harbor. There is no
substitute, however, for actual working model. Surety of fact is
sometimes fleeting, an imagined lover is never equal to a real one, but
some say can come very close. Are we made of imagined or observed
deduced collapsed stars as real physical processes or virtual energy
wave functions in condensed matter form that can be truly measured and
perceived, and can they be one and the same? Is the presented quantum
reality too intricate for present mortal full understanding, Einstein's
pointing deducing that human intuitiveness is not enough? Are we
therefore, in examination of the ever further Planck length sub energy
fields, left with only more questions and doubt then understandable
logic or proof? If there are germs so micro invisible and undetectable,
but that can physically sicken or kill us, then why doubt? Can we ever
fully understand the eternal energy well from which all things
apparently come? What then is considered real, the temporary impulse
wave front, or its collapsed reactive ongoing effects? Are both not
needed and critical to our discovery of what is, visible or invisible,
or is only, ultimately, and therefore the physical understanding of wave
function what really matters? Can we distance and logically separate,
even for a moment, energy and mass dual understanding preoccupation from
full background spectral analysis, for fundamental understanding the
overlapping wave field as or from a disturbed uniform one?

In order for light to be self sustained photonic or reflected light, as
energy based bundled particle quanta or group wave, it requires counter
resistance, pressure, and or apparent nuclear non degenerating
preserving cohesive force. And additionally, if there is no perceived or
detectable medium presenting or resupplying same, then what is causing
light's relative invariant fixed momentum in space vacuum? Even, for
argument sake, if Greysky has truly found FTL and a way for non
resistive transmission of energy in vacuum, then that too however would
not prove absence of medium. For this would not negate actual observed
upper limit of renormalization of fields to base uniformity.

Perhaps Mr. Greysky can lend some theoretical or practical model insight
as to what energy supplying process is presented to permit faster then
light, but lower then total equalized field upper limit possibility, and
its sustainment in an present no medium needed field premise.

        the nightbat

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