Re: A challenge to non-SRians

From: greywolf42 (mingstb_at_marssim-ss.com)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:07:06 -0700

"Myxococcus xanthus" <mold-guardian@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ce5e7813.0408020936.2473435a@posting.google.com...
> dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote in message
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> >Myxococcus xanthus:
> >>"greywolf42" <mingstb@marssim-ss.com> wrote in message
> >>news:<10gnufp2ctkrm97@corp.supernews.com>...
> >>
> >>> Here's the simplest that I can think of (it may need to be more
> >>> complex, depending upon your win/lose criterion).
> >>>
> >>> A source of light pulses will be located at a position (S).
> >>> There will be a
> >>> target/detector/reflector (T) placed a long distance away (some
> >>> miles). Each location will have a recording clock, synchronized
> >>> to the GPS time (no e-synching allowed). A light pulse will be
> >>> sent from the source to the target and back (at least two
> >>> 'bounces'*). The arrival times will be
> >>> recorded. The orientation of the source-target will be changed,
> >>> or duplicated with other source-receiver combinations.
> >>
> >>To minimize cost, you want to go with COTS test equipment as much as
> >>possible, renting as much as possible.
> >>
> >>Please supply an equipment list, suppliers, and estimated cost.
> >
> > It should cost very little. Just about everything required could
> > be programmed into a few microcontrollers at less than $5.00/controller.
> > Maybe $10.00 for one with a good D/A converter. Programmers can built
> > for less that $20.00 and the software required can be obtained without
> > any cost at all. That leaves very little in the way of test equipment
> > required and with a reasonable deposit, I can loan a scope, at least
> > one pulser, a function generator, about a half-dozen power supplies,
> > a couple of dvm's and a few other miscellaneous odds and ends,
>
> That sounds great! I'd even be willing to chip in a modest amount of
> money, maybe $20, to see this done. There should be enough interest in
> this newsgroup to collect the funds in $10-$20 increments to help set
> up the experiment. Of course, Greywolf needs to put up $1000.

Sure. I also expect some investment costs.

> We need an escrow agent and money handler, somebody who could be
> trusted by both sides.

Whaddya mean 'we' Myxo? You aren't playing. Though you are welcome to
offer sage advice. ;)

> > though
> > I doubt I'll ever really have to worry about anything materializing.
>
> There are several problems, besides the obvious ones, that need to be
> overcome.
> 1) First of all, I doubt that Greywolf has the electronics expertise
> to conduct the experiment himself, so he'd have to trust somebody like
> you to set up and perform the experiment. Would he be willing to trust
> you?

Why would I trust Bilge? If I need assistance, I'll ask my Dad. He
designed communications gear for the US Navy ... including satellites and
time standards.

> 2) "Secret identities" need to be revealed. People like Greywolf and
> you have been very careful to hide your true identities.

LOL! I freely provide my name to whoever asks. My name is Barry Mingst.
And a trivial effort by Google will provide this.

Now Bilge (David Semon) is a different matter. But he's also irrelvant, as
he's not a party to the bet.

> However, I
> don't see how a contract could be written up without revealing your
> identities to Paul and to at least one other person who would need to
> act as witness.

So, who is the fruiting bacterium? 

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greywolf42
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