Re: A challenge to non-SRians
From: greywolf42 (mingstb_at_marssim-ss.com)
Date: 08/05/04
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:33:43 -0700
"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message
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> Myxococcus xanthus:
> >dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote:
> >
> >> Let's put it this way. He wouldn't be willing to _pay_ me to do
> >> the work required to turn that naive concept into a real experiment.
> >> People that haven't ever done real experiments vastly underestimate
> >> what has to be done to conduct an experiment that's worth doing and
> >> what he's conceived as an experiment is stupid.
> >
> >Ah, but I was HOPING that you might desire so very much to rub Barry's
> >nose into the ground and see him lose $1000, that you might volunteer
> >your services.
>
> We're talking at least a year to two years of real work. Anything
> easy has already been done.
This experiment is easy. And it hasn't yet been done.
> Taking data might take less than a
> few hours, but that would be the very last thing one would do.
> Prior to that one has to investigate all of the systematics
> one can think of,
Already done. Or will be negotiated prior to beginning the experiment.
> verify that one knows what the data means using
> some sort of known calibration, etc...
LOL! The data is itself meaning. One doesn't need to process it through a
theory before the data takes on existence. The 'meaning' will simply be the
win/lose criterion. One result will give me money. Another result will
give Paul money.
The rest of you priests can discuss the results all you like. I'd certainly
make even the raw data available.
> >Certainly I myself would like to see Barry in a situation where he
> >will be forced to admit that an experiment OF HIS OWN DESIGN, (however
> >klutzy it may be) generated results consistent with relativity.
>
> If there was a non-zero chance he would ever ever admit to being
> wrong, he would have been forced to admit it everytime he posts.
Sticks and stones.....
Bilgey fears experiment.
> >Which is why I'd be willing to chip in money to see it through.
>
> I think it's funny enough watching them struggle without being
> able to even think of an experiment that isn't both stupid and
> destined to failure.
LOL!
> It reminds of the first semester I taught
> the funnybook physics labs when I was a grad student. One of my
> students was twirling a ball on the end of a string over her head
> and managed to wind up the entire string around a pony tail on the
> top of head. The difference is that I'd give her a better shot
> of coming up with an experiment here.
So, why are you afraid of letting me lose $1000? Once Paul comes to terms,
would you care to make a side bet, David?
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