Re: The Emptiness of Theology

From: Albert (alwagner_at_tcac.net)
Date: 08/09/04 

Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:04:24 -0500

Robert J. Kolker wrote:
<snip>
You are, as usual, wrong, Bob.

The lie is this: Salvation is by grace and
> grace is a free gift, totally unconditional.

Actually, one condition. You must accept it.

One does not even have to
> say "thank you". Yet the Christian preacher puts a price on this grace
> to wit

Pure lies.

>
> 1. Park your brains at the door

Wrong. The authentic Christian has no quarrel with science.

> 2. Rely on faith rather than observed fact

Wrong. The authentic Christian uses science when dealing with
objects and phenomena of Nature. Faith is for everything else.

> 3. Give up whatever current beliefs you have

Wrong. For the authentic Christian, there is no contradiction
between science and faith. They deal with different domains.

> 4. Follow the preacher and make converts.

Very wrong. For the authentic Christian, we are all priests and
kings. It is very dangerous to follow any preacher. Conversion
cannot be and should not be coerced. If you are curious, just
send me private email.

> 5. Contribute a tenth of your income to the preacher's church.

Wrong. That was an old testament Mosaic law. It's now a matter
of conscience.

> Some grace that is.

Indeed. Your definition is pure horse***.

> I have a recomendation. Take the crud out of your eye before you tell
> someone else to remove the crumbs from his eye. You can quote me on that.

Physician, heal thyself. 

-- 
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the 
range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally 
impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
     -- George Orwell as Syme in "1984"
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