Re: Is Hammond stupid for not seeing the obvious?
From: ZenIsWhen (ZenIsWhen_at_anywhere.com)
Date: 08/25/04
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:48:23 -0400
"George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Scot McDermid" <scotmc@optNOSPAMonline.net> wrote in message
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> > "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > > "Observables" does NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH existing!!!!!!!
> >
> > Upon mere consideration:
> > I'm willing to agree that particle physisists would find that
> > "if we can observe it then it exists" is a necessary concept.
> > Seems to me that when it comes to subatomic particles the
> > question "What are we really observing?" would come up.
> > And a reasonable answer would be: If we see "pi meson splatter"
> > then there must have been a "pi meson".
> >
> > However, the corollary that George says that *science says*
> > doesn't actually follow. If there is no one of observe the
> > "pi meson splatter" does NOT mean that there would no
> > longer be "pi mesons".
> >
> > SO.... in summary:
> > "if we an observe it then it exists" is true
> > but
> > "if there is no one to observe it then it doesn't exist" is false.
>
> [Hammond]
> Baloney. We're only talking about the case of "the entire human race
> being dead"..... we're not talking about the case of a single person
> turning his back on the Moon.
Since when did you invent that fraudulent tangent to your insane claims?
> If the entire human race is dead, there is no particle collider,
> no cafeteria, no parking lot and no pi-mesons.
Yea..........right .... bu Tinkerbell still caa sprinkle pixie dust and make
you fly!
>
> Look... I'm getting tired of going around and around on this
> philosophy debate which has been going on for 1700 years
> with no resolution.
Thehn why don't you admit to the FACT that your crap has NO scientific
validation, or meaning?
>
> I'VE FOUND THE RESOLUTION TO IT WHICH
> IS THE DISCOVERY THAT GOD=G_uv
No - you haven't!
No amaunt of insane bellowing, outrageous distortions of science, and
religion, and plain old fraudulent lies is going to change that fact!
>
> What I'm disgusted with is the fact that we have assembled
> enought manpower on these two threads to start a political
> party.... and yet between the 30 of us no one can
> make any penetration into the SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY..
Not only has "penetration" been made - the hot air has been let ouf your
"balloon of ignorance" the very minute you opened your mouth!
> all we can do is keep circiling around on the "philosophy issue"
> which as is well known....CANNOT BE DECIDED without
> some NEW SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY.
>
> I PROPOSE that we make a halfass ATTEMPT to discuss
> the SCIENCE...yes, I propose that total amateurs in Science
> jump right into linear algebra and General Relativity without
> knowing a DAMN THING about it. If you will be humble
> enough to do so... I'll refrain from being obnoxious and
> impatient.
You cannot discuss the science in a load of crap!
You HAVE no science, you have no logic, you have no support, and you have no
connection with reality!
> "IMPOSSIBLE" YOU SAY.... I don't think it is impossible.
> I think ANYTHING is possible if 30 people want to do it.
> I will actually volunteer to translate General Relativity and
> Linear Algebra Psychometry into "simple plain language"
> for anybody who will discuss the matter without
> excessively going into "nitpicking digression"... which I'm
> asking you not to do.
You can't even understand the REAL definition of I.Q..
There is no reason to believe you can compehend, let alone explain, anything
more complicated!
> CHRIST.... desperate situations call for desperate
> measures. 2,000 years ago 12 angry fishermen had
> to become the world's leading theologians... and they
> couldn't even read and write.
Obviously history - even biblical hoiostry - are beyond your grasp.
If the "12 angry fisherman couldn;t read and write" - where did hte letters
we hve from them come from?
The leading theologians of the time were NOT of the christian religon -
because the christian religion, at the time, was little more than a
disconnected cult.
I think we can repeat
> that performance. I think "12 computer science buffs"
> can become expert in the "Relativistic Proof of God"
> and solve this problem of delivering this discovery
> to the human race!
> How about it?
Bwahahaaaa... you haven't convinced ONE PERSON that it's nothing more than
an ignorant pile of ***!
Now you're going to pretend YOU'RE Christ, sending out YOUR apostles?
Your delusions, insanity, and psychotic bellowing has reached outrageous
proportions!
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