Re: Hammond sees the obvious?
From: George Hammond (research137_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/26/04
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:37:59 GMT
"Scot McDermid" <scotmc@optNOSPAMonline.net> wrote in message
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> < Top posting sorry>
>
> I see a problem. I was confusing Brahma with Brahman.
> Big Difference
[Hammond]
Hey... don't sweat the small stuff.
A "scientific proof of God" is so historic and crucial
to the world.... that they are willing to overlook even
monumental blunders..... all they want to know is:
IS THERE A REAL GOD OR NOT ?
and I've found the answer.... YES there is a real God;
as real as Gravity.
>
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman
> In the Vedantic (and subsequently Yogic) schools of Hinduism, Brahman is
> the signifying name given to the concept of the unchanging, infinite,
> immanent
> and transcendent reality that is the Divine Ground of all being. It is
> regarded
> as the source and sum of the cosmos, that constricted by time, space, and
> causation, as pure being, to some extent a sort of "world soul." Thus, in
> the
> beginning of its history, it was deemed a sort of super-stuff from which
all
> that is arises, and debuts with this verse:
>
> Great indeed are the Gods who have sprung out of Brahman.
> Atharva Veda
>
> <rest of the post intact without comments>
> "George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Scot McDermid" <scotmc@optNOSPAMonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:296Xc.1512$ZD4.2516225@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > "Goran Dhemmeog" <hcraeser731@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:b9eccd47.0408250130.354b4e77@posting.google.com...
> > > > "George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<NipWc.303919$%_6.59369@attbi_s01>...
> > > > > "Goran Dhemmeog" <hcraeser731@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:b9eccd47.0408230606.10e82fb9@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > "George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:<_BiWc.297578$a24.489@attbi_s03>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > [Hammond]
> > > > > > > Baloney. The Trinity of "Vishnu, Krishna, and Brahma"
> > > > > > > is the same as the "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" in
> > > > > > > Christianity. Therefore Hinduism is a monotheistic religion
> > > > > > > despite it's many demigods.
> > > > > > > Buddhism is a derivative of Hinduism, as you know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Incredible! George managed to singlehandedly prove that not only
> > does
> > > > > > Buddhism have a God, but also Hinduism is actually a
monotheistic
> > > > > > religion! Who was Shiva then?
> > >
> > > Some sects of Buddhism have a God. Or at least "there is a sort
> > > of God in there" just like a close association between God
> > > and he eternal Tao.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Yes they refer to "God" as the "Buddha Spirit" or
> > "Buddha Consciousness".
> >
> >
> > > And Hinduism is actually pantheist with Brahman ~= universe.
> > > All the other gods are 'only' parts of Brahman. At least that
> > > is the story that I know.
>
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Vishnu is the closest thing to "God the Father" in Hinduism.
> > Krishna is clearly the "Son of God" model... although
> > remember Hinduism does not base their religion on a history
> > of persecution as does Christianity... so their "Son of God"
> > is not the martyr that ours is. Brahma is clearly the "Holy
> > Ghost" third of the trinity in Hinduism. Thus the
> > "Trinity of God" in Hinduism is "Vishnu, Krishna, Bramha"...
> > the equivalent of "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" in Xtianity.
> > The "Trinity" BTW is not part of the "structural" model,
> > it is actually a description of the cybernetic loop that
> > controls brain growth through the interaction with society..
> > the "input, output and feedback" of brain development.
> > Shiva BTW is the Hindu "Devil".... god of war and
> > destruction. Again, because of the lack of a backdrop
> > of antisemitism and all its horrific evels... their "Devil"
> > is considerably tamer than ours..... like Hitler for instance.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Hammond]
> > > > > Shiva is the Hindu version of the Christian "Devil".
> > > > > Shiva is the "god of war and destruction".
> > > > > Devil worship is probably even more prevalent in
> > > > > India than it is in the West, however, the Hindus
> > > > > being a less ruthless, treacherous and vicous people
> > > > > than the barbarian west, their idea of a devil is
> > > > > somewhat tamer than ours.
> > >
> > > Shiva is not the Christian Devil. Christian might want
> > > to paint Shiva that way but it simply isn't true.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > I disagree. He cut off the head of Brahma for instance.
> > Is the God of war and destruction.... is known as the
> > "Destroyer" in Hinduism.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > I find these quotes from the web:
> > > > "Shiva is the destroyer of the world, following Brahma the creator
and
> > > > Vishnu the preserver, after which Brahma again creates the world and
> > > > so on. Shiva is responsible for change both in the form of death and
> > > > destruction and in the positive sense of the shedding of old habits.
> > > > In Satyam, Shivam, Sundaram or Truth, Goodness and Beauty, Shiva
also
> > > > represents the most essential goodness."
> > >
> > > When you take 'the shedding of old habits' and raise it
> > > to 'mythical proportions' it would probably look a lot like
> > > death and destruction. I tend to agree with Joseph
> > > Campbell who implies that a lot of myth has to do with raising
> > > the 'everyday' up to 'mythical proportions'.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Well.... everything I say is based on the discovery of the
> > "factual, axiomatic and experimentally proven" structure
> > of religion. Of course historical religion is not based on a scientific
> > discovery... it is based on centuries of guesswork, trial and error,
> > so it only "approximates" the "accurate" scientific discovery which
> > of course has been made after the fact.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > "Lord Shiva is the third diety in the Hindu Triad (Brahma, Vishnu
and
> > > > Shiva). Shiva represents the aspect of the Supreme Reality that
> > > > continuously dissolves and recreates the universe. He is the Lord of
> > > > Mercy and Compassion, since without the cyclic process of evolution
> > > > souls could not evolve and attain liberation. Shiva is the consort
of
> > > > Kali."
> > > >
> > > > In your usual habit, you did not check the facts.
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried to contact Dalai Lama about SPOG yet? Surely you must
> > > > tell him that he actually worships God, and you can prove it.
> > >
> > > If George's proof is correct then he has proven that everyone is
> > > impacted by God whether they know it, and whether they
> > > worship anything.
> >
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Yeah.... that is the AWESOME fact.
> > Here I'm dealing with hundreds of irate critics, all of
> > them under the complete control of "God" and not
> > one of them knows it or realizes what it is.
> > When you multiply that times 6-billion people in the
> > world.... you're talking a man sized problem.
> >
> > Do you know how easy it is to spook or scare a million,
> > 10 million or even 100 million half crazed, scared and
> > innocent and ignorant people who don't know what the name
> > of the game is, what God is... that even that there is a God...
> > or where we are and where we are going..... sheesh... people like
> > Hitler have been doing it for thousands of years.
> > Listen to some of these people.. they practically jump and down
> > with rage when you tell them you've discovered a proof of God.
> > If I didn't have faith in human nature... faith in the common sense
> > of the majority...I could easily start losing sleep over all this.
> > And thank christ for the Internet!
> > ====================================
> > SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
> > 1st mirror site:
> > http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > 2nd mirror site:
> > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> > new site (under construction):
> > http://home.comcast.net/~proof-of-god
> > ====================================
> >
> >
>
>
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