Re: Jastrebski, Schornak & McDermid.

From: TMG (TMG_at_Nowhere.org)
Date: 09/12/04 

Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:56:34 -0400

George Hammond wrote:

>
> [Hammond]
> Schornak's anti-spog website is located at:
> http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>.

An intelligent, well researched, and documented site. It refutes all of
your "points" regarding SPOG - something we have been pointing out for
years. But the stunning thing is: you aren't dismissive of it "out of
hand".

Now comes the though parts - how do you address each of his points? The
overwhelming point of the site is a huge, clear, refutation of SPOG -
point, by point, by point.

> Bernhard.... Let me say once again, I am impressed with
> your inquiring nature, your spirit, energy and resourcefulness.
> I have read your website several times line by line....
> now that you have all the URL's working. It is
> highly interesting.... fascinating, I think is the correct
> word.

But clearly, your view of the universe is incompatible with his
documentated one. How do you reconcile them?

> Interestingly, I read that you were born in Gdansk.

Although (after years of border trading) this may have been true - I bet
Herr Schornak thinks of himself as German - maybe not. He certainly has
a native mastery of german (I can't speak to his mastery of Polish).

> There
> is another Polish physicist on sci.physics.relativity named
> Jim Jastrebski, who is currently living in the U.S. He escaped
> the German invasion of Poland as a child and later became
> an engineer in the U.S. Being competent in math, he took
> several courses in General Relativity at Harvard. He is well
> known for advancing an alternative explanation of the
> Hubble expansion.
> Of interest is the fact that Jastrebski is one of the few
> competent Relativists who AGREES WITH HAMMOND.

and therefore is "competent".

> He has said on several physicis newsgroups:
>
> "Hammond is correct..... God is a
> Curvature of Psychometric space".
> (Jim Jastrebski, 2003)

as has [Hammond] said everywhere.

"The earth is flat".
"Everyone says so".
"There is SCIENTIFIC proof that the earth is flat".
"Anyone who thinks otherwise is a PEDANTIC FOOL".
"All REAL scientists KNOW it's OBVISIOUS that the earth is flat".
"Jasterbski said I might be right, and he's only slightly mocked"
"YOU HAVE NO DEGREES"!

> Jastrebski is also known to Scot McDermid, another SPoG
> investigator (and critic), since I ran across a long discussion
> between McDermid and Jastrebski about the SPoG on
> sci.math which apparently took place a few years ago.
>
> Jastrebski has a website where he dedicates one section
> of it to George Hammond, located at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/wlodekj/sci/gravity.htm
>
> He says there:
>
> "This section is dedicated to George Hammond, the
> first scientist who, using Einsteinian gravity
> ..........., scientifically proved the existence
> of God (as caused by the curvature of psychometric
> space, a.k.a. brain growth deficiency)."
> (Jim Jastrebski, his website)
>
> I think his current email address is: JimJast@xxxxxxx.com

don't do that.

>
> At any rate, you might want to email him and tell him about
> your "anti-spog" website and see what he says about it.

He has his finger on the SPOG pulse - I'm sure he'll be aware of it.

> BTW, I found a picture of you and was suprised to
> find out you are not the little old bald, short, stocky,
> bug eyed German character I expected, but rather a tall
> dark robust Steven Segal type character, much like Jim
> Jastrebski. So much for judging personality types
> by way of the written word.

Again - we see that "Steven Segal" fixation. I'm not exactly sure how it
fits into [Hammond]'s problems, but I suspect it's related to protecting
the downtrodden. A powerful hero figure that protects children, women,
truth, justice, and the American way. I suspect [Hammond] (probably)
knows Steven Segal is just an aging bad actor, but I'm not sure
[Hammond] (or the rest of us) understand the hero epic of Segal as
George see it.

>>Greetings from Augsburg
>>
>>Bernhard Schornak

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