Re: Jastrebski, Schornak & McDermid.

From: TMG (TMG_at_Nowhere.org)
Date: 09/13/04 

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:33:25 -0400

George Hammond wrote:
> "TMG" <TMG@Nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:7JOdnXksPcnbMd7cRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>
>>George Hammond wrote:
>>
>>
>>>[Hammond]
>>>Schornak's anti-spog website is located at:
>>>http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>.
>>
>>
>>An intelligent, well researched, and documented site. It refutes all of
>>your "points" regarding SPOG - something we have been pointing out for
>>years. But the stunning thing is: you aren't dismissive of it "out of
>>hand".
>
>
> [Hammond]
> Hey... to an American junk food bicycle riding marine biology
> jerkoff like you I don't hesitate to tell you you're an impudent moron
> for your critisims of SPoG.

You still don't have the profession right, but I've given up trying to
teach you anything. This is, as it usually has been, about my own
amusement and those of the other readers. What your ego refuses to see,
is, that mocking amusement is what most use you for.

> On the other hand, talking to a native of Danzig which was
> practically ground zero for WWII, the Nazis, the Holocaust,
> and the Communists, is another story. A guy like Schornak was
> born knowing more about the human condition and psycho/social
> conflict than you will ever know. The fact that he is not a
> trained scientist is practically besides the point.

Yep - and he's cleaned your clock on soooo many levels. We all have -
you refuse to see it, but every reader knows it.

> The very fact that
> he even NOTICED SPoG is more significant than what he thinks
> about it.

Ahhh,..as you realize he's articulate and anti-spog, it becomes less
about what he thinks, but THAT he thinks?

> Fact is, the only competent physicist (relativist) who has ever
> come out IN SUPPORT of SPoG is Jim Jastrebski

You keep saying that, but I don't think it's true. You've taken a small
snip of a comment and built a religion around it. Not that Jastrevski is
without critics, but he's not really in your corner. The fact you won't
interpret his wider scale comments correctly reinforces our opinion of you.

> who is also
> a native of the same area, and who is older.. old enough to
> remember the Nazi invasion of Poland from which he had to
> flee. JASTREBSKI UNEQUIVOCALLY
> SAYS THE SPOG IS CORRECT!!

No - see above - you're being mocked.

> So... while Schornak is a scientific amateur and his credulous
> reaction to the SPoG is completely understandable on that basis
> alone...... in the end, people like Jastrebski and Schornak are
> the people closest to the problem psychologically.

and say you're flat out wrong.

> And eventually,
> my guess is that THEY are going to get suspicious first.... suspicious
> about halfass comedians like you ridiculing the SPoG.

Suspicious is good. You should try it a lot more.

> Jastrebski has already called you on it.... he has said Hammond is
> correct... that: "God is a Curvature of psychometry space".

Read the rest of his web site, you dishonest putz. Covering your eyes at
the parts that you don't like, or mock you, doesn't count.

> So, wiseass... I don't think your ploy of trying to start some
> friciton between me and Schornak is going to work.

I think you misread Herr Schornak's site - there is no friction between
he and I. He (like I) has posted factual rebuttals to your statements.
You've often thanked me for it - in a kind of back handed way at many
times - but it keeps coming back to my point. For well over two years,
George, you post factually proved tripe - I post the actual facts, and
you bob and weave.

Now, someone has gathered together a codex of the anti-spog. A reality
based counterpoint to [Hammonsd]'s anti-reality.

There is no friction.

> We're
> not stupid, and we know who the hell you are and what your
> motives are. When the chips go down wiseguy, it's going
> to be Me, Poland, Germany and Israel all against smart alecks
> like YOU.
>

Just remember - you and your friends (Poland, Germany, and Israel)
should never invade Russia in the winter. That's been tried, but since
some people refuse to learn, I thought I'd mention it.

>
>>Now comes the though parts - how do you address each of his points? The
>>overwhelming point of the site is a huge, clear, refutation of SPOG -
>>point, by point, by point.
>
>
> [Hammond]
> Cut the ***, I just answered you above.

No you didn't. He has clearly documented points where spog varies from
reality. You seem to have wet yourself.

>>
>>> Bernhard.... Let me say once again, I am impressed with
>>>your inquiring nature, your spirit, energy and resourcefulness.
>>> I have read your website several times line by line....
>>>now that you have all the URL's working. It is
>>>highly interesting.... fascinating, I think is the correct
>>>word.
>>
>>But clearly, your view of the universe is incompatible with his
>>documentated one. How do you reconcile them?
>
>
> [Hammond]
> The SPoG de facto reconciles Germany, Poland, Israel
> on the question of "Religion".

It doesn't even reconcile the alphabets - religion, economic self
interest, and culture are a lot tougher.

> You know it, I know it,

You're half right - *I* know.

> and it won't be long before Bernie figures it out. At that
> point you and all the rest of the American smartass
> deadwood is gonna have to give up the executive
> mansions and go back to work.
>
>
>
>>>Interestingly, I read that you were born in Gdansk.
>>
>>Although (after years of border trading) this may have been true - I bet
>>Herr Schornak thinks of himself as German - maybe not. He certainly has
>>a native mastery of german (I can't speak to his mastery of Polish).
>
>
> [Hammond]
> Take a close look at who you're talking to:
>
> C:\A-SPoG\Bernie Schornak.htm
>

That didn't really work out the way you expected, eh?

> Unlike you, he just doesn't look like the kinda guy
> one feels like insulting.
>

You're the only one who insults anyone [Hammond]. Give it time, you'll
turn on him just like everyone else you've put on a pedestal - from
which they piss on spog.

By the way - I haven't seen the Christian Science Church embrace spog
yet. You swore that it was just around the corner, and that you were
talking to high level church officials. Ummm, where is that? Can we
safely put that on the dung heap of other [Hammond] spew? The various
scientists that support you in email? The Vatican Academy? The dead
physicists you write to?

And you think this *isn't* for our amusement??

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