Re: Energy from "nothing" - conflicts with law of preservation of energy?

From: Greysky (greyskynospam_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 09/14/04


Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 05:19:27 GMT


"Tue Sorensen" <twocrafts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c50450f6.0409121850.71c1286a@posting.google.com...
> As mentioned here:
>
> http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/V/vacuum_energy_drive.html
>
> it might be possible to extract quite large amounts of energy from the
> quantrum vacuum of empty space itself. Does this not contradict the
> law of constant and conserved energy? If we could extract large
> amounts of such energy, wouldn't we effectively have a means for a
> perpetual motion machine?
>
The ability to do useful work rests not in the fact that some particular
energy field is huge, but in the fact you have another point where it is
different. That's how a battery works. So, if you are going to plug one end
of your toaster into the zero point field, where is the other wire going to
go? Now, if you had access to another universe which has a different value
for its zero point field, you would have a nice battery replacement. Failing
that, you are left with somehow re-ordering small, quick, energy
fluctuations found in nature. If you had a magnetic rectifier that operated
at a frequency of > 10^15 terahertz, you may get enough power to keep your
coffee warm. A guy named Hans Coler tried something like this in Germany
before WW2, but at least he never got anywhere with his
'magnetstromapparat'. You can try to duplicate his experiments using
neodymium magnets, and superconducting wire, but you probably wont break
even...

Greysky



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