Re: God=G_uv proves 40k B.C. Creation

From: John Wilkins (johnSPAM_at_wilkins.id.au)
Date: 09/14/04 

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:18:51 +0000 (UTC)

Ferrous Patella <mail125797@pop.net> wrote:

> news:1gjz1nk.1hhc4da1ep8fntN%johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au by
> johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins):
>
> > ErikW <bryophyta@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ferrous Patella <mail125797@pop.net> wrote...
> >> > news:UMidnesglpC6taTcRVn-vA@comcast.com by "George Hammond"
> >> > <research137@hotmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> > > We all know homosexuality is counterproductive, biologically.
> >> >
> >> > No. "We" do not know that.
> >> >
> >> > There are many examples in biology where nonreproductinve members
> >> > of a population are a benifit to the species as a whole.
> >>
> >> Ehum, group selection...
> >
> > Of the untenable kind. Sorry FePa [ErikW], but benefit to an entire
> > species is unworkable unless it is a small deme of close kin.
>
> Actually, I was thinking of social insects.

Still deme selection/kin selection. Nothing happens for the entire
species.
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > You premise is false. The rest does not follow.
> >>
> >> Agree.
> >
> > Also. Smaller group selection, AKA kin selection, can account for
> > homosexuality just fine, even without invoking conditional strategies. 

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