Re: God=G_uv Proof of 'Intelligent Design'

From: Rob Duncan (robduncan_at_gbronline.com)
Date: 09/15/04


Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:00:15 -0700


"George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "sam ende" <sam@sende.co.uk> wrote in
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> > > [Russell E. Rierson]
> > > 5. The laws of physics are a set of organizing principles.
> > >
> > > 6. The only true example we have of an organizing
> > > principle is that of a "MIND"
> > >
> > > 7. The universe came from a MIND.
> >
> > [Sam Ende]
> > Why ? I don't think so. I think it is like the distinction we make of
> > mind and brain and finding no answer, maybe it is because it is
> > superfluous, .... <snip>
> >
> > sammi
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> "sam ende" <sam@sende.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:2q46rsFr2tltU1@uni-berlin.de...
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> > > [George Hammond]
> > > Hammond has discovered, proven and published the fact that
> > > the classical "person-God" of Religion exists and is explained
> > > by CLASSICAL EINSTEINIAN GRAVITY.
> >
> >[Sam Ende]
> > hammond must be a twit.
> >
> > sammi
>
> [Hammond]
> OK... if I've got this correctly, Russel Rierson believes Intelligent
Design
> exists and that it proves God exists.  Sam Ende says Intelligent Design
> does not exist and is therefore not a proof that God exists.  If I've
> got this wrong, please correct me.
>
> Meanwhile, I would like to take a position on the question of
> "Intelligent Design".  My position is:
>
> 1.  Intelligent Design is manifest in observable phenomena.
> 2.  This is because Man is the observer.
> 3.  It does indicate the existence of "God".
> 4.  It is not sufficient to "prove" the existence of God.
> 5.  Therefore it falls in the same category as the "5-proofs
>      of God" published by Aquinas in the Summa;  it is
>      "necessary but not sufficient" to prove the existence
>      of God.
>
> Now let me explain what I mean by this.  Here I am speaking
> strictly within the "Classical Physics Approximation", which
> is:
>
> -----------Classical Physics Approximation---------
> 1.  There exists an absolute physical reality.
> 2.  Man is an independent observer of this reality.
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>
>
> As we all know this is only an approximation.  The breakdown of
> this appears in Quantum Mechanics where among other things it
> produces the "Uncertainty Principle".  But it is not necessary
> to get into Quantum Mechanics for me to explain points 1-5
> above.
>
>
> Classical Physics holds that the human brain and sensory system
> creates a "faithful image" of absolute physical reality.  I.e., if we
> see it-  it is really there.  Furthermore, Physics ignores such things
> as "mental illness", "head injury", "temporary blindness",
> intoxication", blah, blah, blah, when it makes this assertion.
>
> Therefore, Physics proceeds on the assumption that this image
> is "nominally a 1:1 reproduction" of actual physical reality.
> At least, there is no "systematic and fundamental" departure
> from this 1:1 relationship that we have to worry about.
>
> INTERESTINGLY,  Hammond has pointed out that there
> IS A FUNDAMENTAL AND SYSTEMATIC DEPARTURE
> from this presumption.  And in fact it is this fundamental
> departure that causes what we call "God".
>
> It turns out, that while Physics ignores the fact that children
> have only partly grown brains and therefore don't see a
> 1:1 image of absolute physical reality until they reach age 18
> .... Physics ignores this on the grounds that it is "only
> temporary until they grow up and everybody knows about it".
>
> HOWEVER, Hammond has discovered that no one ever actually
> "fully grows up".  The SECULAR TREND in human growth
> shows that the average adult person has a "terminal growth
> deficit" amounting to some 15% or greater, and not only
> that it is variable among people, and even timewise variable
> in a single individual (hence 'miracles').
>    Hammond has proven that this "Secular Trend growth deficit"
> causes a Relativistic Curvature in the presumed 1:1 ratio between
> "perceptual reality" and "actual reality".  This significant
> CURVATURE then explains why we perceive the existence of
> a "supernatural God" who can "change reality".
>    In fact Hammond has discovered that this departure from the
> 1:1 ration is described mathematically by G_uv, the Einstein
> Curvature.  Hence the equation God=G_uv.
>
> OK.... HOW DOES THIS CAUSE  "INTELLIGENT DESIGN"??
>
> As explained above, the "classical person-God" of Religion is in
> fact the "invisible part of Man" caused by the Secular Trend growth
> deficit.  "God" therefore is in fact measurable to two decimal points,
> in Psychometry.
>     Since human braingrowth then "creates new reality"... we say that
> "God creates the World".  In fact, since modern Man is only 40,000
> years old, we see that the advent of modern Man (Homo Sapiens
> sapiens) 40,000 years ago, is in fact the scientific explanation of the
> Genesis Creation.
>    Meanwhile however, Man as he currently exists is only seeing
> "absolute physical reality" through the eyes of an 85% (average)
> grown brain.  This is what gives us the impression that a "greater
> intelligence" is involved in what we see.... at least a 15% greater
> intelligence, and in many cases significantly more than that... even
> as much as 20 or 30% some cases.  this is why we see "intelligent
> design" in our perceived reality (which is the only reality we can
> actually see).   Physics does not detect this "intelligent design"
> because it is measuring "absolute physical reality" which as the
> physicists will tell you... manifests no intelligent design.  However,
> NO NONE CAN ACTUALLY SEE absolute physical reality.
> It can be measured, and the Laws of Physics accurately describe
> it.... BUT NO ONE CAN SEE IT!!
>    The only thing we can SEE is "perceptual reality" and this
> obviously manifests an "invisible intelligence", and the reason
> for this is now well known.
>
>   So... INTELLIGENT DESIGN IS PROVEN TO BE CORRECT.
>
> Since NO ONE is fully grown (no one has their full intelligence),
> Man has observed "Intelligent Design" in the functioning and appearance
> of Nature since the beginning of the Species 40,000 years ago
> and will continue to observe it until the Secular Trend ends and
> we are all full grown (Kingdom Come) many thousands of years
> from now.
>
> Finally, we should note that Hammond's discovery of God=G_uv
> has now proven:
>
> 1.  God exists.
> 2.  Intelligent Design is scientifically correct.
> 3.  Biblical Creation is scientifically correct.
>
> I certainly think it is high time that Fundamentalists and Evangelical
> Christians as well as the 1.3 billions of adherents of Christianity
> in general polished up the silver Crosses on their lapels and began
> to take a more serious stance towards the continued refusal of
> Science to take God seriously.
>   In view of the bloody massacre of 200 school children in
> Russia last week, fueled by Religious confrontation among other
> things, I think it is a high crime and misdemeanor for Science to
> continue to ignore Hammond's discovery of a comprehensive
> scientific proof of God.  It is not right that innocent people
> should pay with their lives while Science drags its feet on this
> important issue.
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Youve gone off the deep end.
Rob


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