Re: How does light know it is traveling at c?

From: jahn (suzysewnshow_at_yahoo.com.au)
Date: 09/20/04 

Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:02:24 -0400

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: | > | : | > | [snip]
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: | > Seriously though, all physics boils down to one basic principle,
: | > action at a distance. We look at any aspect, it always comes back
to
: | that.
: | > For there to be any action, there has to be an actor/actee and an
: | > actee/actor,
: | > and there is always distance between them, that distance being
filled
: | with
: | > nothing. I cannot envisage a massless (and indeed solid yet liquid
yet
: | > gaseous substance that is totally inert, save for the mechanical
: | > transmission of pressure of some kind jamming itself between the
: | electron
: | > shell and the nucleus of an atom, let alone pervading the entire
: | universe.
: | > All matter (whatever that is, electrons/protons/neutrons, the
stuff
: | they are
: | > made from), interacts with other matter over a distance that is
not
: | matter.
: | > For gravity,
: | > we've no dielectric to consider. For electromagnetism, we can
consider
: | > intervening matter between the actor/actee pair acting as a
: | dielectric, but
: | > it is
: | > itself composed of matter, a kind of catalyst for the
: | enabling/disabling of
: | > the action at a distance that is apparent between two magnets
: | separated by a
: | > *** of paper or the charged plates of a capacitor. The matter
itself
: | is
: | > only the monopole, the centre of the field that is the action at a
: | distance.
: | > We can all write m = E/c^2, but that is only a clue as to what is
: | really
: | > going on.
: | > I think we are at a position where we can say electrons exist,
action
: | at a
: | > distance happens, and little more. We can propose our ideas and
say
: | what
: | > things are not, but do very little in saying what they are.
: | > So I'm open to suggestion from any quarter, but don't be surprised
if
: | it is
: | > rejected.
: | >
: | So ya ignore the space because it is nothing except 1/r^2 .
:
: The inverse square is a description of behaviour.
: A mathematical 'verb' if you like.
: It is not a noun. It doesn't say what is there.
Nothing needs to be there.
Paint the inside of a sphere of radius r and another of radius
2 r.
The 2 r sphere should requires 4 times as much paint.
Usually, I suggest painting the outside but since you mentioned
behaviour... I thought... with the fumes and all; It kinda' fit. ;-)
:
: |
: | Entities share their electric charge by moving neighbors closer that
: | lack it.
: | Entities harbour their electric charge by pushing away neighbours
that
: | have enough.
:
: 'Charge' is a noun.
: The behaviour is also 1/r^2, but with a different constant
electric is an adjective.Charge is a noun.
Hydrogen is an adjective. Atom is a noun.
What can I say? I learn english by listening to U.S. presidents.
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: |
: | Entities share their magnetic field by aligning their neighbors.
They
: | harbour
: | their magnetic field by turning their neighbors orthogonal.
:
: 'Field' is a noun also.
Thus is can be shared in space or with creatures from space.
see 'Crop Circles'.
:
:
: |
: | So what is is left that entities can do to share excess energy with
: | their neighbors?
:
: Excess ENERGY?
: I don't see any excess energy when a magnet is stuck to a fridge.
But you did when it was 1 mm distant.
: I have to expend energy to remove it. I also have to expend energy
: getting out of this chair. I don't see any excess.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&group=sci.me
d.nutrition

:
:
: | Radiate!
: | What is left that entities can do share their neighbor's excess
energy?
: | Pull them closer!
: | Ya sure can't ask 'em send over a cup of sugar and 3 photons. Eh?
: | So the apple pulls the earth closer to get it's energy.
:
: Nope... It loses it.
Didn't ya ever read Adam and Eve? You would know that apple's have
*intent* if you had. It was the apple's intent to gain the energy. I
didn't
say whether it was thawarted by other forces or not.
Space probes have intent too. They intend to share a planets energy
by crashing into it but other forces known only to eveiel scientists
trick
them into doing a sling-shot manoeuvre.

"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind
to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
and by opposing end them."

To die; or to be suspended; and by ending death
"to say we end the heart-ache and the
thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to."

'Tis nobler to defy the claims of death
on our mortal minds and
to take arms against its eternal hold,
and by opposing death end it."
--Shakescharge

Anyway, the earth/apple system have a higher density and temperature as
a result
so some radiation from the system should be expected.
(excellent agreement is derived conformably to this point of
view) ;-)
:
: |
: | There ya have it. It's all about sharing.
: | Now give your G'son a nice b'day gift and I'll see that he
: | he gives ya the keys to the universe.
: | (just have it back by 11 o'clock with no new dents)
: | ;-)
:
: Thanks... I think.
: Androcles
Of course ya mean 'Thanks'. I left a few rough edges on it
so that you'd have something to complain about. :-)

Now... Can you conceive a subatomic mechanism like
pole alignment of magnets, that causes graviataional flux
to be shared the way magnetic flux is shared by entities.
Sea urchins can't turn such that their spines are orthogonal.
If ya can, with something like an imaginay axis (or 3 )
then something more complete could be stated than simply
attracting mass and radiating energy?

Kind regards,
Sue...
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: | Kind regards,
: | Sue...
: |
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: | > | : | >
: | > | : | > | Hmmm... a mercenary beyond my means.
: | > | : | >
: | > | : | > I should coco. He's beyond everybody's means and his B-Day
is
: | > | : | > Friday. Can I borrow your credit card?
: | > | : |
: | > | : | He looks a bit young to have a credit card. Playing cards
: | > | : | work just as well to make bicycle spokes sound like a
: | > | : | motor.
: | > | :
: | > | : Good idea! And I don't have to buy him a bike either, he
hasn't
: | broken
: | > | : the one he has...yet.
: | > | :
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