Re: question about LET and quantum mechanics

From: greywolf42 (mingstb_at_marssim-ss.com)
Date: 10/12/04 

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:23:49 GMT

"Oriel36" <geraldkelleher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:273f8e06.0410110905.28cedef6@posting.google.com...
> ru <ru@no.spam.please.net> wrote in message
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> > In article <slrncmd4kv.253p.ru@newred.gradwell.net>, ru wrote:

{snip}

> There was a time when men genuinely experienced the conceptual plight
> inherited from Newton but most of the answers could not have come
> until the 1920's at the earliest.
>
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/ilej/image1.pl?item=page&seq=9&size=1&id=
bm.1843.10.x.54.336.x.425

A really poor citation. Because you don't identify who wrote this. It
appears to be an 1843 publication. And it doesn't appear to include the
quote that you provide immediately below.

> "The fictitious matter which is imagined as filling the whole of space
> is of no use for explaining the phenomena of Nature, since the motions
> of the planets and comets are better explained without it, by means of
> gravity; and it has never yet been explained how this matter accounts
> for gravity.

Too bad the author combined both ignorance and arrogance. The details were
first worked out by Le Sage, 90 years before this diatribe was written.

> The only thing which matter of this sort could do, would
> be to interfere with and slow down the motions of those large
> celestial bodies, and weaken the order of Nature; and in the
> microscopic pores of bodies, it would put a stop to the vibrations of
> their parts which their heat and all their active force consists in.
> Further, since matter of this sort is not only completely useless, but
> would actually interfere with the operations of Nature, and [314]
> weaken them, there is no solid reason why we should believe in any
> such matter at all. Consequently, it is to be utterly rejected."

A wonderfully Priestly polemic.

> Optics 1704
>
> "I have no regard in this place to a medium, if any such there is,
> that freely pervades the interstices between the parts of bodies."
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/definitions.htm#time

Jeez, couldn't you at least have provided the whole quote, instead of that
silly out-of-context snippet? (Thanks for the link, anyway.)

"The quantity of matter is the measure of the same, arising from its density
and bulk conjunctly."

"THUS air of double density, in a double space, is quadruple in quantity; in
a triple space, sextuple in quantity. The same thing is to be understood of
snow, and fine dust or powders, that are condensed by compression or
liquefaction; and of all bodies that are by any caused whatever differently
condensed. I have no regard in this place to a medium, if any such there is,
that freely pervades the interstices between the parts of bodies. It is this
quantity that I mean hereafter everywhere under the name of body or mass.
And the same is known by the weight of each body; for it is proportional to
the weight, as I have found by experiments on pendulums, very accurately
made, which shall be shewn hereafter."

Newton thought that a medium *was* necessary for gravity. He just didn't
know how it worked. ("Hypothesis non fingo."):

"[T]hat one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum,
without the mediation of any thing else, by and through which their action
and force may be conveyed from one to the other, is to me so great an
absurdity, that I believe no man who has in philosophical matters a
competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it." {Quoted without
reference in "Relativity and its Roots", B. Hoffman, 1983.} 

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