Re: OK, I'm Ready For the Patronizing Insults From the Resident Gurus!

From: Henri Wilson (H_at_..(Henri)
Date: 10/12/04 

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:24:27 GMT

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:57:45 -0400, David Evens <devens@technologist.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:57:29 GMT, H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 00:48:53 -0400, David Evens <devens@technologist.com>
>>wrote:
>>>On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:22:29 GMT, H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>There is NO evidence for SR and there is overwhelming aggreement between
>>>>ballistic predictions and the brighhtness curves of hundreds of variable stars.
>>>
>>>And the fact that the only way you get your 'model' to predict light
>>>curves is to twiddle the (very large number of) parameters until you
>>>happen upon a similar curve (that isn't actually that similar and
>>>doesn't explain the Doppler shifts and change in spectral line
>>>characteristcs like the physical model does and doesn't actually match
>>>anyway) is explained by...?
>>
>>It explains everything Evens.
>
>Yes, I am aware that recognising that balistic light models don't work
>explains everything.
>
>>>>>>>> "To busy to answer" is Henri's last resort when he is unable to answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maybe when he gets some time...but I'm not all that hopeful. Besides,
>>>>>>>GPS works fine. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It works well after the clocks are cirrected for their rate change in free
>>>>>> fall.
>>>>>
>>>>>And how are they corrected for their rate changes in free fall?
>>>>>A cesium fountain clock is *in* free fall (well, the relevant
>>>>>working atoms are, anyway).
>>>>
>>>>Ah, but they aren't spinning around the Earth cutting its fields like the GPS
>>>>clocks.
>>>
>>>What fields do you imagine the (electromagnetically isolated, by the
>>>way) GPS satelite clocks to be 'cutting'?
>>
>>gravity.
>
>What 'gravity' field tdo you imagine is being cut?
>
>>Do you deny that a gravity field exists, Evens?
>
>What causes you to halucinate that there is a difference between atoms
>in freefall in one place and atoms in freefall in another place?

So you agree that one free fall is as good as another, eh?

That means all clocks in free fall will experience the same change in rate,
does it not?

>(Although it is nice to see that you have recognised that your
>pretense that the clocks on the ground are not working in freefall
>since the ticking bits are always in freefall when being used to make
>ticks was stupidly wrong.)

HW.

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