Re: Energy of Gravity is Nonlocal

From: vonroach (hadrainc_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 11/01/04


Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:42:44 GMT

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:46:36 GMT, "Bill Hobba" <bhobba@rubbish.net.au>
wrote:

> It is hard to even conceive of an
>alternative theory that could explain the basic features of the observed
>Universe.

Do my ears deceive me? You sound like a contemporary of Newton.

>We are not 100% confident of that at all - but what really going on is
>probably beyond your ken.

Is that the best you can do?
>
>> Sounds closer to hubris than intellectual appeal. I
>> tend to be a bit cynical.
>
>Your cynicism is fine - simply do not confuse it with science.
>
It is the essence of science.

>> IMHO, even our invented language of mathematics has more `intellectual
>> appeal' than the above melange of assumptions that appear to have
>> worked for the anecdotal period of a few hundred years in vicinity of
>> a small star.
>>
>> But carry on, it gives you something to do while DNA plays out its
>> game.
>
>It is obvious the above poster understands nothing or at the most little
>about science. His philosophical evaluation of a theories foundations are
>irrelevant - what is relevant is correspondence with experiment. Now I
>wonder if he has any concerns on those grounds?
>
Billy, I wasn't aware that any experiments had successfully found any
definite evidence of gravitons, gravity waves, or energy strings
beyond `mathematical conceptual models'. I don't even know if there is
a way to prove these `concepts' wrong. Then there is a horizon beyond
which we cannot see with the most powerful telescopes arrayed in
space. The light had not disengaged and the Universe was dark. A
`philosopher' might say this destroys the credibility of these
concepts beyond mathematical curiosities.

I can see that my reference to human destiny on this speck of rock was
a bit over your head.

>Bill
>



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