Re: Download a new book on quantum mechanics and relativity.

From: Eugene Stefanovich (eugenev_at_synopsys.com)
Date: 11/22/04


Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:35:58 -0800


Ken S. Tucker wrote:
> Eugene Stefanovich <eugenev@synopsys.com> wrote in message news:<41A17ACC.6070202@synopsys.com>...
>
>>Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>>
>>>Eugene Stefanovich <eugenev@synopsys.com> wrote in message news:<41A05286.4020808@synopsys.com>...
>>
> [...]
>
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>>>>I think that a magnet bar moving freely without any external
>>>>forces (it is in a uniform translational motion coupled
>>>>with spinning) does not radiate anything.
>>>>It will keep moving for ages without ever slowing down or
>>>>reducing the turning rate.
>>>>Eugene.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's what GR says too, was that so hard?
>>>
>>>In GR you can replace the centrifugal force that
>>>a rotating the magnet causes by a gravitational
>>>force. Imagine placing your bar magnet vertically
>>>on your desk, of course it won't radiate.
>>> That's a neat example of how a lot of what you're
>>>doing is simplified by GR, it's not just about
>>>gravity, it's also deeply involved with rotation.
>>>
>>
>>The same can be explained without GR.
>>The absence of radiation by a spinning magnet is of the
>>same sort as the absence of radiation by electrons
>>moving around atomic nucleus. This was explained by Bohr's
>>quantum model of atom 91 years ago.
>>Don't sell me GR please. I'm not going to buy it.
>
>
> You're being silly, obtuse, non-scientific and
> derogatory. If you have a genuine interest in
> physics this side of FTL=oo, the least you could
> appreciate is the fact that GR can explain what
> Bohr's model ad hoc'd on, note you said "model"
> AND using the same logic predicted how Mercury's
> perihelion advances, etc...
> Does it occur to you GR reaches from the "inner
> mind to the outer limits"?
> Ken

I've been intentionally provocative. Sorry about that.
Of course, I know that atomic properties were just
postulated by Bohr. I also know well how Bohr's postulates
were explained by quantum mechanics of Heisenberg and
Schroedinger. So, let me change the date to 79 years ago.

However, I would not believe you that you can derive quantum
mechanics from GR. Wave functions, Hilbert spaces, Hermitian
operators etc. are completely foreign to GR. Short equations you
wrote in a couple of your posts do not impress me at all.

Eugene.



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