Re: A One-Way Light Speed Experiment that Works.

From: jahn (susysewnshow_at_yahoo.com.au)
Date: 12/02/04


Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:45:31 -0500


"Androcles" <dummy@dummy.net> wrote in message
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> "jahn" <susysewnshow@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "Androcles" <dummy@dummy.net> wrote in message
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> >> "jahn" <susysewnshow@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> >> > "Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message
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> >> >> All it requires is a receiver/transmitter/dish on the
edge
> > of the
> >> > moon. ..plus
> >> >> a transmitter with a large dish fired at 0.0001c away
from
> > the sun.
> >> >>
> >> >> NASA could do that for a few million dollars, I'm sure.
> >> >> Actually they could drop one on Mars maybe... or a
Jupiter
> > moon.
> >> >>
> >> >> The experiment is souind though, you must admit.
> >> >
> >> > Andorcles and King George the Adled taught me never
> >> > to admit to anything. It's bad politics and bad defence
> >> > law. ;-)
> >>
> >> Cassini is in orbit about Saturn, sending back time-stamped
> > signals.
> >> We can determine the speed of light when the probe is
> > approaching
> >> and receding from a difference in the time of transmission
and
> > the
> >> time of arrival. OWLS is available NOW. A moving source is
> >> available NOW.
> >
> > High Energy Blazar Astronomy
> > ASP Conference Series, Vol. 299, 2003
> > L.O. Takalo and E. Valtaoja
> > Superluminal Motion and Relativistic Beaming in Blazar Jets
> > http://www.cv.nrao.edu/2cmsurvey/pub/kik_turku03.pdf
>
>
>
> "We find no simple relation between the time scales of flux
density
> changes and apparent component velocities."
>
> That means "We've no idea what it is we are looking at, we are
> determined to use red shift solely as a velocity indicator,
we'll only
> use Einstein's equations" and
>
> Sue is running around gathering already reduced data. ONLY raw
data is
> acceptable.
We'll you know how that goes. The collectors usually want
bet the intrpreters.
>
> In the FAR field, redshift is a function of distance, not
velocity.

I'll have to re-think that in terms of golf balls and majorettes.
That
paradigm at least gives another tool to better understand the
doppler
frequency vs. wavelength relation that we were getting stuck on.

I know you favored my initial simplistic statement that a
receiving
antenna would encouter "flux transitions" at a higher rate if
aproaching
the emitter. I think you'll admit that some subsequent study
indicates that we should at least consider that the Coulomb
coupling may be the "boss" in this situation.

But yeah... we have no idea what we are looking at unless
we can explain the relevant details of Maxwell's equations
if used. "Explain" doesn't mean manipulate the symbols in
the 100 year old tradition and parrot the 100 year old phrases
either. ;-)

Sue...

>
> > All we need is data collection. Thank you, Roemer.
> >> Androcles
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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