SR R.I.P.

From: Peter Kinane (pkinane_at_iol.ie)
Date: 12/20/04 

Date: 20 Dec 2004 13:47:04 -0800

This, in a faint hope, is directed to those who are new to discussion;
those for whom, perhaps through experience of persuasion through
assertion, or deference to 'authority', "premise" is "necessary
truth". (I reckon that all that is missing to get from this to fascism
is the use of physical force - unless one counts the requirement of a
loud voice. (Perhaps Hitler sort-of won after all)).

"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message news:slrncsbmge.8tk.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
> Peter Kinane:
>
> >First to look at the premise that there is "empirical evidence", or
> >that it "accords with experiment or observation", as weight of a
> >model:
> >* Theory: Day follows night repeatedly. So, if the Earth is flat, it
> >means that the Sun or suns rise, travel over the Earth and set. Expt.-
> >-Observation: It does or they do. *
>
> I've seen few, if any more inane an attempt to call something a theory
> than this ridiculous logical fallacy you keep posting. Are really as
> dense as that lame attempt at a theory indicates?
>

I encourage you to I encourage you to advance ((... working downwards:
3, and we've 4 quite a while)) from assertion to argument, if you are
familiar with the concept. If you are, but laziness is your problem,
at least make an attempt. If you are afraid of embarassment, well, a
little might be good for your personality. In case you simply do not
know how to discuss, here are some suggestions:

1. Give an example of what you regard as a theory which is the
opposite of an "inane" theory.
2. Show the difference between that and mine.
3. Express, in your words, the flat Earth and Sun or suns rising,
travelling across the sky and setting theory in accord with
observation(as it was).
4. Show how the point you are making impacts the rigour of the
principle I am expressing - that relationship of different models
effects more coherent rigour of value than simply relying on the
theory
in accord with experiment- -observation principle. 

-- 
Peter Kinane
http://www.effectuationism.com/

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