Re: 1c+1c Closing Velocity of Light and Matter
From: Henri Wilson (H_at_..(Henri)
Date: 01/13/05
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:38:12 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:01:48 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
<ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
>In sci.physics, H@..(Henri Wilson)
><H@>
> wrote
>on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:07:56 GMT
><9p3bu0t7g2k9qrsd995erutki3sn4lqq7r@4ax.com>:
>>>Hard? It's impossible, as far as I can tell (the usual central clock
>>>leads not to an OWLS, but a TWLS measurement). Of course a number
>>>of derived results (MMX among them) might help in interpreting OWLS,
>>>given a certain method of TWLS measurement.
>>
>> It isn't impossible with modern facilites. ..but it is very hard.
>>
>>
>> It is certainly possible to compare two light speeds from
>> differently moving sources. My moon EM relay device will do it.
>
>And return 0, if SR is correct.
That is correct Ghost. Any other result will annihilate everything that
Einstein ever said and will set physics on the right path again.
>
>I would suggest the following. A small pair of satellites
>is fired off a rocket that ultimately approaches the
>moon. The first satellite detaches, bounces on the moon
>(presumably one can set up a mechanism here similar to the
>Mars rovers), stops, deploys. This would ideally be on the
>"leeward" or "back" side of the Moon (relative, that is,
>to its orbital path -- not to Earth).
No surely it would be best on the edge of the moon. Then it cane lined up
pretty well with the source that is moving away.
>
>The second satellite orbits the moon for a time, but at
>a certain point after the first satellite is determined
>to be operating correctly, the second satellite fires off
>the rest of its reactant, accelerating away from Earth in
>such a fashion as to allow both it and the first device
>to be observed using Earth radiotelescopes. All this
>time the second satellite is sending fixed timesignals,
>presumably through an onboard cesium-ion oscillator.
>The first device would pick up these signals and relay
>them using a known delay, on a different frequency (to
>avoid confusion).
>
>This sounds like a reasonably doable experiment. Got a
>few hundred mil? :-)
But no new source is needed. A signal froman existing space probe can be used.
There are plenty of them up there. One orbiting Saturn or even Mars would do
nicely. The higher the velocity, the better, of course.
>>>
>>>How can one be interested in stamp collection if one isn't
>>>employed by the Post Office?
>>
>> Well throw away all your books are take notice of what I'm telling you.
>> Einsteinian relativity is wrong.
>
>Of course it is. That's why pi mesons from an accelerator
>send gamma rays at c.
I explained all that.
>>>> Cepheids have typical brightness variation curves predicted
>>>> by the ballistic theory.
>>>
>>>The ballistic theory does not include Cepheid variable convection.
>>>Even SR cannot make that claim.
>>
>> The ballistic theory predicts the typical curves of cepheids.
>> Single orbiting stars with eccentricities about 1-2.
>> ('single' means their companion is dark.)
>>
>>>
>>>> You see, Ghost, the whole of astrophysics will be re-written
>>>> when they get it into their heads that light moves at c+v,
>>>> where v is our velocity relative to the source.
>>>
>>>Ah, a momentous discovery! I'm privileged to be here as you
>>>announce it.
>>>
>>>Erm, precisely how do supernovae work and how fast does the
>>>exploding shell expand, again?
>>
>> One cannot be sure because of extinction effects.
>
>Ballpark figures are sufficient.
Nah! Too many assumptions, Ghost.
>
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