Re: behoynd SR masquerade

From: beda pietanza (beda-pietanza_at_libero.it)
Date: 01/15/05 

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:04:58 GMT

"Bill Hobba" <bhobba@rubbish.net.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> "beda pietanza" <beda-pietanza@libero.it> wrote in message
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> > "Bill Hobba" <bhobba@rubbish.net.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> > > "beda" <beda-pietanza@libero.it> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Bill Hobba wrote:
> > > > "beda pietanza" <beda-pietanza@libero.it> wrote in message
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> > > > > If you take away the mask to someone, how can you be sure that he
> > > didn't
> > > > > wear another mask underneath ???
> > > > >
> > > > > And under this other, another ???
> > > > >
> > > > > So you can never know the real face of someone.
> > > > > can you get to know him trough the choices of the many different
> > > > > masks he decides to wear????
> > > > >
> > > > > but he knows that you know, and you know that he knows that you
> > > know......
> > > >
> > > > If you are so sure SR is a conspiracy then why try to unmask it?
> > > Surely all
> > > > the conspirators will keep doing is fling masks at you just like the
> > > petrol
> > > > companies do to those that believe they are keeping 100mpg
> > > carburetors from
> > > > surfacing. After all it is one giant conspiracy so we can not
really
> > > > believe anything can we? - even that you are actually interested in
> > > > understanding relativity. So why bother? - if it is really a
> > > conspiracy the
> > > > conspirators will never admit to it will they?
> > >
> > > beda pietanza
> > > No conspiracy!!! In order to be there a conspiracy the conspirators
must
> > be
> > > aware of it, this would make the conspirator potentially liable to
> repent.
> > >
> > > That a conspiracy is done at a level the conspirators do not even
> realize
> > is
> > > so silly it not even worth comment. Think about it - fudging of
facts,
> > > repressing articles, ensuring the press do not get hold of the truth,
> all
> > > done without any plan or even knowledge of those doing it. What
next -
> > the
> > > space shuttle was built by people sleepwalking and they just happened
to
> > > create something that worked.
> > >
> > > Rest snipped
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Did you read my post two lines above ?? entirely ?? I'm reposting it for
> you
> >
> > No conspiracy!!!
> >
> > In order to be there a conspiracy the conspirators must be aware of it,
> > this would make the conspirator potentially liable to repent.
>
> Yes I did Beda. That is why I quoted you as saying it. And I stand by
what
> I said. For the conspiracy to be done at a unconscious level - to the
point
> where the people concerned to not recognize it - is absurd.

You are entitle to your opinion but not entitle to define mine:
as I said there is not any conspiracy; in my opinion SR is not a conspiracy
but
""SR belong to those kind of theory and
believes that, for the strength of the suggestions that they imply,
they operate as a psychological mass attractors: once the trap has
been triggered there is little that can be done but ( the course of
history) must wait patiently till a new mix of circumstance, a new
"great deceiver" or prophet, if a new trap is at hand it may go
off; then the majority of the people will shift to the new belief and
live happily with the new as they lived happily with the old one.""

> It is much more
> likely that the arguments you think are show stoppers for SR are simply
> misconceptions on your part. And from what you write I am quite certain
> that is the case.

In my post that started the thread I sustain with figures and some arguments
that a moving observer is fully aware of his own absolute movement, if you
think that there is a mistake in what I wrote, point it out, it may turns
out that the one having misconceptions are you, even though you feel
safe, locked in your SR believes.

best regards

beda pietanza

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