Re: Does that delineate idle from non-idle speculation for you?

From: AllYou! (idaman_at_conversent.net)
Date: 01/18/05 

Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:30:50 -0500

"Androcles" <dummy@dummy.net> wrote in message
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> <reany@asu.edu> wrote in message
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> >
> > Androcles wrote:
> >> <reany@asu.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:1105846187.721920.196850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Androcles wrote:
> >> >> <reany@asu.edu> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1105819627.457138.33760@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> > [snip]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That is my point.
> >> >> >> Physics, as with any science, begins with observation,
> >> >> >> investigates (experiments if you like) and explains the
> >> > observation.
> >> >> >> Idle speculation about what might be isn't physics at all, it
> >> > isn't
> >> >> >> even science.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How does one distinguish idle from non-idle speculation?
> >> >>
> >> >> At it again, Reany? Always with the idle questions you
> >> >> can figure out the answer to for yourself, if you only tried.
> >> >> Androcles.
> >> > You're the one who introduced the term, not me. Hypocrite.
> >> >
> >> You really are as thick as two short planks, Reany.
> >>
> >> Tell ya what.
> >>
> >> If you OBSERVE some phemonenon you do not understand,
> >> come and talk to me about it, we'll try to figure it out.
> >
> > I don't understand the phemonenon of inveterate ignorance of people
> > who
> > should know better, like you and Bilge. But let's not even go there.
> >
> Since you raised the issue, inveterate ignorance is all yours.
>
> >>
> >> If you IMAGINE some phenomenon you do not understand,
> >> take it elsewhere, I'm not interested in your imagination.
> >
> > But I am very interested in your reasoning processes!
>
> It is called "logical deduction". We see something and try to
> explain it.
> AllYou! IMAGINED something and tried explain it.

Not true. I observed that community of scientist have claimed the existence of time
without ever having observed it. Once again, you have it backward. Tell me how you've
ever observed time.