Re: 1c+1c Closing Velocity...,answer to Henri Wilson
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Date: 02/07/05
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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 04:00:02 GMT
In sci.physics.relativity, H@..(Henri Wilson)
<H@>
wrote
on Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:30:21 GMT
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> On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 22:05:58 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
> <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
>
>>In sci.physics.relativity, H@..(Henri Wilson)
>><H@>
>> wrote
>>on Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:07:24 GMT
>><9n9a01tmefchl9snok8cvg4m27geddl4oa@4ax.com>:
>>> On 4 Feb 2005 13:46:34 -0800, "Randy Poe" <poespam-trap@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2005 04:24:09 -0800, valls@icmf.inf.cu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>> >> valls@icmf.inf.cu wrote:
>>>>> >> > Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>> It is pretty obvious that SRians don't really know what they believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 'closing speed' of light apparently does not have to be 'c' yet
>>>>light can
>>>>> only travel at c.
>>>>> Do you realize how stupid you people sound to the non-indoctrinated?
>>>>
>>>>Actually, since the distinction between these concepts is
>>>>who is making the measurement, I think it's one of the
>>>>most trivial aspects of relativity to grasp. Most
>>>>reasonably intelligent sixth-graders could probably
>>>>get it with five minutes of explanation.
>>>
>>> ...and even dumb sixth graders would realise that differences in 'closing
>>> speeds' fully support the ballistic theory's explanation of variable star
>>> brightness curves.
>>>
>>> That's what it all about.
>>
>>I'd be interested in your calculations regarding PSR B1913+16.
>>
>>http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/relativity/binpulsar.html
>
> The parameters are such that a great many multiple images
> are created at 21000 LYs distance and no observable
> ballistic effect would be expected.
Multiple images? If so, we should be able to see them.
They should flash fairly nicely, too.
>
> However, the assumed values of all the parameters could
Not "could". Are. If one subscribes to ballistic theory, that is.
The only thing one can trust is one's own observations in this
matter, or, failing that, the raw recorded data.
This is why repeatability is so important. :-)
> be completely wrong since they are based entirely on Einsteiniana.
Which has, of course, been shown to be an accurate predictor
for a lot of the experiments thrown at it, from decaying
pi mesons at high speed to bouncing radar off Venus.
One is, of course, free to bounce radar beams off Venus, if
one likes (and has a detecting station big enough).
>
>
>>
>>Not that I'm all that interested in the brightness thereof;
>>I'm more interested in the energy deviation of each light quanta.
>>Both theories predict a shift therein because of the orbital speed.
>
> GR and the BaT both predict the same energy loss for light escaping a mass.
GR? Who said anything about GR? I'm using *SR*. For orbiting
sunpairs (or, in this case, neutron stars), we can observe
the following.
[1] the energy shift -- which in SR is also a frequency variance;
I don't know what it will do with BaT/ElT -- is
observable without too much difficulty; if nothing else,
apply the quanta to a selenium surface and vary the voltage
to see if the energy of each quantum can overcome the hill
produced by an external variable voltage source (plus the
amount of energy required to liberate the electron from
the atom proper).
[2] The period of orbit shouldn't be too hard to observe either,
in either theory; the light variations will be periodic
regardless of whether the lightspeed is constant, or not.
>
> The question surrounding this pulsar relates to energy loss due to
> gravitational wave radiation, if any.
The main question is far more fundamental: does this pulsar pair
show evidence for emissive theory?
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> HW.
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>
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