Debunking Ken Seto in progress....

From: A.S. (arnoldschrod68_at_go.com)
Date: 02/15/05 

Date: 14 Feb 2005 16:56:09 -0800

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Study the above illustrations of Ken Seto atomic model of the
hydrogen atom. Isn't it the electrons are so far away from the
nucleus, how can the above makes sense? Seto always mentions how
no one can debunk him. That's because he doesn't offer enough
details. The above illustration and some quotes below came from
Seto book itself. I borrowed it from a friend to debunk it. I
pity crackpots when they wasted too many years self-deluded which
could have spent elsewhere. I hope Bjoern or other physics wizards
can point out more flaws of the Seto atomic model as detailed
in this message and the accompanying illustrations (you must
click the above url to get an idea of it all). Should Seto
successfully defend them all and gives a convincing experiment
that can survive the scrutiny of scientists everywhere. He wins a
Nobel.

Quoting Ken Seto in his book: (Impt, see the illustrations above to
understand what he is saying)

Model Mechanics

The Structure of Atoms

The Model Mechanical description of the structure of an atom is
much more realistic. The nucleus of an atom is formed by the
stacked and electromagnetic interactions of the S-Particles of
the up-quarks and down-quarks. The electrons are orbiting
S-Particles around these stacked up-quarks and down quarks. The
relevant question for this description is- how does an electron
manage to maintain an orbit around the nucleus without spiraling
into the nucleus? To answer this question, let us examine the
simplest of all the atoms, the hydrogen atom. The nucleus of a
hydrogen atom is a proton that is shown schematically in Fig.
2.12. Now let us introduce an electron to the proton--now it
becomes a hydrogen atom Fig.2.14. Within the nucleus, the
down-quark is in an orbiting motion around the up-quarks. The
direction of the orbit is such that it is the same as that of the
S-particles (clockwise direction) of the stacked up-quarks.
Similarly, the direction of the orbit of the electron is the same
as that of th e down-quark . Now let us examine the forces that
these particles are exerting on each other. The stacked upquarks
exert an attractive force on the down-quark and the electron, and
the down-quark exerts a repulsive force on the electron. At
ground state, the attractive and the repulsive forces acting on
the electron are in equilibrium and thus, it is allowed to orbit
at this energy state. There is only room for one more electron at
the ground state orbit. The reason is that the electrons exert a
repulsive force on each other and therefore, they must maintain a
proper distance from each other: The ground state orbit is the
diameter of the hydrogen atom. This orbiting scheme, by the way,
does not violate Pauli's exclusion principle that two electrons
cannot have the same quanturn state. The S-Particles of these
electrons are orbiting in the opposite direction. In quantum
mechanical terms, they have the opposite spins.

It is noteworthy that inside the ground state orbit the electron
will feel a repulsive force, while outside the ground state orbit
the electron will feel an attractive force. These unique
properties enable the electron to absorb and emit energy in
discrete packets. The following diagram will help us to visualize
how energy and radiation are being absorbed and emitted by a
hydrogen atom.

The above diagram explains why an atom produces sharp spectrum.
The step by step process is as follows. Previously, I have
illustrated that at the ground state orbit there is no net force
exerted on the electron by the quarks in the nucleus. However,
when an electron is exposed to a quantum of energy, it will
absorb that specific energy immediately. This will elevate it
into a higher orbit. At this higher orbit, the electron will feel
a net attractive force from the nucleus. This net attractive
force will cause the electron to lose energy gradually as it
spirals inward toward the ground state orbit. As the electron
orbits behind the nucleus, it is cut off from the energy source
completely. This causes it to lose all of its absorbed energy and
drop back to the ground state orbit immediately. The energy
emitted by this process will appear to us as discrete and lumpy,
and that is exactly what was found.

The gradual loss of energy by the electron gives rise to its
unusual shifted orbit and this shifted orbit is known as the fine
structure of the hydrogen atom. With quantum mechanics, this
shifted orbit is interpreted as the maelstrom of activities of
the virtual particles that buzz around the electron. Clearly, the
above Model Mechanical explanation is much more preferred. The
shifted orbit of the electron was discovered experimentally by
Willis Lamb in 1947 and it is called the Lamb's shift (or the
fine st ructure of the hydrogen atom). Willis Lamb was awarded
the Nobel Prize for this finding.

It was shown previously that the nucleus of an atom is formed by
the stacked interactions of protons and neutrons. Therefore,
looking at a nucleus sideways, it will appear to be cylindrical,
instead of the normal concept that it is spherical. The electrons
of an atom would orbit around the protons in the nucleus. The
ground state orbit of a proton is able to accommodate two
electrons. The reason is that the repulsive force between the
electrons is preventing any more electrons to come into this
orbit. Since the ground state orbit of a hydrogen atom has only
one electron, therefore it is actively seeking another electron
to complete this orbit. This is what gives the hydrogen atom the
chemical reactivity. Also, this is what gives the hydrogen atom
the ability to share an electron with another atom. This sharing
of an electron is known as hydrogen bonding. Hydrogen bonding is
unquestionably the most important chemical process of life
because it gives rise to all the complex molecules of life. The r
ules governin g the orbits of the electrons in a heavy atom are
much more complex than that for hydrogen because the repulsive
forces among all the electrons must also be considered. It is
beyond the scope of this book to deal with this subject in
detail. However, the structures of helium, lithium, beryllium and
boron are shown as follows.

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