Re: GOD=G_uv FOR IQ's OVER 150 <<Blasphemy!

From: George Hammond (nowhere1_at_nospam.net)
Date: 02/26/05 

Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:10:27 GMT

".sSweetMarie" <brieflyblue@_^hootmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.02.26.04.41.55.578415@_^hootmail.com...
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:03:50 -0800, kingzog wrote:
>
> > George Hammond wrote:
> >> "kingzog" <kingzog_1@lycos.com> wrote in message
> >> > Incidentally if God
> >> > =G_uv what units is God in?
> >>
> >> [Hammond]
> >> the full expression is:
> >>
> >> God = G_uv = BGD (brain growth deficit)
> >>
> >> The BGD can be expressed as a "percent" of full growth.
> >> the units of curvature are actually 1/length^2 (the curvature
> >> of a sphere for instance is G_uv = 1/radius^2 ). Hence
> >> there is actually a constant k in the above equation which
> >> is a "conversion factor", however appropriate units can
> >> always be selected to make k=1. If not one would have
> >> to write:
> >>
> >> God = G_uv = k BGD
> >
> > Ok, but what does this *mean*. G_uv is a curvature tensor, right?
> >
> > So when you say God = Guv, does that mean that places with a really
> > high curvature are God? Or is God the G_uv for the whole universe,
> > which sounds like a hi tech version of pantheism.
> >
> > What do you think of the Omega Point theory BTW?
> >
> > http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Omega/tipler_page.html
> >
> > Actually reading this makes me think that it would be nice if this
> > something like this was true - we all get reincarnated in some future
> > paradise, but it probably isn't. It's like realising when you're 12
> > that the fact that getting resurrected by Jesus was a comforting thing
> > to believe doesn't mean it's true, in fact quite the reverse. It's sort
> > of like the anthropic principle from hell - the universe may or may not
> > be tuned for life and human level intelligence, but it's definitely not
> > tuned to allow eternal life and God like intelligence.
> >
> > Frank Tipler got seduced into believing in the Omega Point because its
> > predictions are very good news, just like religious people believe in
> > heaven. How can you tell that the same thing hasn't happened to you,
> > and that's the reason for the poor reaction to your theory?
> >
> > Zog.
>
> I will clarify on Hammond's behalf. He may clarify or refute. I don't
> know where he's coming from: To say that God has been reduced to an
> equation is an astonishing thing,

[Ham]
You may actually be one of the few people to realize
even that!

> [SweetMarie]
> and who knows for certain WHAT he's
> trying to say? I think he is saying that we attribute unto "God" those
> things which are which we do not understand. God to Hammond is darkness,
> I think, and his God=G_uv equation describes the nature of that darkness
> and our development therein.

[Ham]
No.. nothing so purile as that. The discovery I have made is in
fact quite simple and straightforward... any qualified scientist can
understand it. BUT... like you say, it's "such an astonishing thing"
that they won't even look at it and are deathly afraid to get
involved for fear of ridicule.

>
> It is indeed true that we live with ignorance interspesed with our
> flashes of insight. A question could not be asked in sincerity and
> innocence if ignorance (darkness) did not cloud our consciousness.
>
> So, imagine that you were among the first generations of {those monkeys
> who rebelled against the alpha-male society and found other means to
> entice the ladies}. The darkness is profound. How does one explain the
> behavior of the lady apes who had left that alpha-male society to be with
> the less physically attractive strong, but more environmentally
> resourceful males of the new (beta?) society? They are attracted back to
> the alpha male. How do you keep them? With intelligence and lies. Only
> a monkey, who cares about the morality of telling lies? Dig a better
> cave, keep the ladies. But, even if the ladies don't actually believe the
> lie and are in fact enticed by the beta male's wit, the baby apes will
> perceive some degree of success and will imitate the successful beta male.

[Ham]
I don't think there is any question that Jesus was an "alpha male",
and yet he never even managed to get married or have any kids.
Don't fool yourself Sweety... there are some alpha males out there
who get involved in things far more important to life on the planet
than domestic bliss.

>
> Over a few generations, this success loses its charm, the society
> undergoes collapse, and somebody, somewhere, asks why. Now, a belief of
> the validity of the granddaddy's tactics, combined with the forgetfulness
> of death, which separates the generations, has led to a mis-perception of
> truth, and the collapse of the beta society is attributed to some
> higher power. God? Not God, no, but rather it is G_uv (the form of the
> darkness which was instilled by the granddaddy's children's
> misperception)
> In the meanwhile, God has never entered the minds of the alpha-male
> society. They're just living naturally, uninfluenced by the darkness
> which pervades the rebel beta society, and unharmed by its instability and
> collapse.

[Ham]
There is no such thing as a society that can "ignore God". Even the
"king of the mountain" has to know about it in order to protect himself..
every king in history has been declared the "defender of the faith".
Ever notice how every archeological dig in history begins with headlines
reading "Ancient temple location discovered"... believe it or not
Sweety, Religion IS the most important social activity of Man and always
has been.

>
> Except, that when the beta-society collapses, the inferior betas return to
> the alpha society. The beta males come in arrogance, forgetful of their
> status vis-a-vis the alpha males, and war ensues. The alpha males win.
> They are just stronger. But, the beta females have undoubtedly crept in
> and some are somewhat attractive to the alpha males, and so the alpha
> society is corrupted and ignorance now pervades all of society. But this
> ignorance is not God. It is only what dominates peoples' behavior.

[Ham]
Oh christ Sweety...sounds like you are describing the "class struggle"
all over again... and YES the thory of religion is indeed central to
the resolution of the class struggle. "All men are created equal" is
after all of Religious origin, even though it appears in the opening
lines of the Declaration of Independence.

>
> If you search for truth, it is the hatred of darkness which compels you.
> If you know the truth, it is the love of the light which draws you.
>
> But those factoids in themselves are not truth. The truth is not in the
> facts. The truth is beyond the facts, and binds the facts together.
>
> That we live in darkness is a fact. That the darkness has a form is a
> fact. That the form is G_uv is the theory (proven?). That God
> = G_uv = BrainGrowthDeficit shows deficit indeed.
>
> I react with disdain to his theory, because God is not untruth.
> God != G_uv
> Why allow lies to be perpetuated? To create another generation of
> slobbering children who don't know how to feed their own children?

[Ham]
  Not to worry Sweety... the toughest bastards in the world
are running Government, Science and Religion (including me)
and we will discover the answer.... which we already know to
be God.. and the proposition that "All men are created equal
under God".
  As soon as the discovery GOD=G_uv broaches the surface
of public awareness... there will be a miraculous turn for the
better in human society...... especially for women and children.
The miracle may be closer than we think... but certainly no
more than 5 years away... because- the miracle has already
been discovered.. so it's all over but the shouting.

>
> .sSweetMarie
> http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/natsumis/science.html
>

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