Re: Improved facts
From: Geraldine Hobba (g.hobba_at_optusnet.com.au)
Date: 03/04/05
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:08:23 -0800
"Paulps" <paulps@freeuk.com> wrote in message
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>
> From the Oxford paperback.
> Vacuum:- Absence of normal or previous content.
> Medium:- 1. A middle quality or degree of intensivness etc. 2. A substance
> or surroundings in which something exists or moves or is transmitted. 3.
> An
> environment. 5. An agency or means by which something is done.
> Spectrum:- The band of colours seen in a rainbow forming a series
> according
> to their wavelengths
> Spectral:- Of the spectrum.
>
> From the Oxford physics paperback
> Doppler effect:- The apparent change in the observed frequency of a wave
> as
> a result of relative motion between the source and the observer.
> Wave:- A periodic disturbance in a medium or in space etc. Note:- They can
> be the same as it cannot be proved that space is not a medium Paul.
> Speed of light:- Symbol c. The speed at which electromagnetic radiation
> travels in vacuum.
> Space 1:- A property of the universe that enables phyysical phenomena into
> three mutually perpendicular direction.
> Space 2:- The part of the universe that lies outside the earths
> atmosphere.
> Note:- Mainly a vacuum Paul.
>
> Some simple provable facts.
>
> a) Light is Electromagnetic radiation.
> b) The speed of light (SOL) is observed to be fairly constant in the
> medium
> of vacuum and as such is used as a constant.
Wishing to use the word medium in relation to the vacuum when such
terminology is not standard in physics can have one and only one aim -
obfuscation.
> c) The SOL is independent of the velocity of the source with respect to
> the
> vacuum/medium.
Same as above.
> d) The SOL is currently always measured at c due to procedural and
> equipment
> limitations (03-03-2005).
In modern times the speed of light is always measured as c because distance
is defined using c. But that in no way changes the fact that the c that
appears in the Lorentz transformations is experimentally found to be very
close to the speed of light.
> e) The fact of spectral shift as a product of Doppler shift is proof of a
> velocity differences in the observation process.
All such allows you to do is deduce the speed of the source relative to you
if the source has a known frequency spectrum - it does not invalidate the
POR.
> f) The observer can from observation of the deviation frequency (spectral
> shift) of light with a known frequency, determine their velocity with
> respect to the vacuum that the light is constant in by a spectrophotometer
> and computation, in most cases.
All it allows you to do is determine the speed of the source relative to
you.
> g) In some cases the effects of what has been called time dilation and its
> associated length compression and the gravity gradient need to be included
> in the computations.
Reference please.
> h) So to the definition in the Oxford Physics can be added~ and with
> spectral shift information and computation the motion of the observer and
> source in relation to the medium in which the wave is traveling in can be
> extracted.
The medium you are talking about has never been detected - but then again
your whole post(s) consists of semantic irrelevancies about what a medium is
when it already has a well known meaning.
> i) Many of the examples posted to this group and in establishment books
> fail
> to take account of the above facts and can be misleading both in concept
> and
> formulation.
What facts? All you have posted is misconceptions and semantic
irrelevancies.
>
> Simplified procedure to determine simplified observer velocity relative to
> vacuum:-
>
> Find source spectral shift = Ss
> Find source velocity relative to vacuum from Ss to = Sv (Hydrogen line
> analasis)
All it allows you to determine is the velocity relative to you - not to some
mythical medium.
> Find observer rotational velocity = Orv
> Find observer orbital velocity = Oov
> Observer velocity relative to the medium of vacuum = c-Sv-Orv-Oov
>
> I'am sure somebody can make this more complicated. Check the minus signs
> as some may be pluses at some phases of rotation and orbit.
I would be happy if somebody could make it intelligible.
Rest of junk mercifully snipped.
Bill
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