Re: O'Barr, do solid objects exist?

From: Bilge (dubious_at_radioactivex.lebesque-al.net)
Date: 03/20/05 

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:25:03 GMT

 reany@asu.edu:
>Gerald L. O'Barr wrote:
>> In <1111226684.777041.105150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
>> Reany <reany...@asu.edu> wrote:
>> >Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@yahoo.com> comments:
>> It would be a waste of time to try to respond to
>> your post. Let me end by just addressing one of your
>> questions:
>> You asked: 'O'Barr, do solid objects exist?'
>>
>> Yes, Reany, solid objects exist. Anyone who has
>> studied science, or any Engineering course, or any
>> subject at all, knows that solid objects exist.
>
>I knew that you would give a moronic answer.
>
>> Take
>> a diamond, composed of simple carbon atoms. A
>> diamond is a solid by definition. It is a solid when
>> the atoms out of which it is composed are held in
>> force fields so that they remain, over time, within
>> fixed, relative positions within the volume that
>> composes the solid. In a solid, atoms keep the same
>> relative position with respect to their neighboring
>> atoms under all normal, reasonable disturbances.
>
>Your entire characterization of the existence of a solid diamond is
>purely anthropomorphic. A neutrino would not see a diamond as a solid.
>To a neutrino, a diamond would offer no resistence to its motion and it
>would not appear to "keep the same relative position with respect to
>their neighboring atoms under all normal, reasonable disturbances."
>Other definitions talk about a definite volume and shape, which are
>both meaningless to a neutrino. One might as well call the universe a
>"solid."
 
  While o'barf will never grasp this concept at all, you are almost
there. Now all you have to do is make that same argument completely
general. The phrase ``solid object'' an object that interacts with
other objects. Interactions are what makes objects, objects. It
should be rather obvious that it makes no sense to imagine the existence
of something that doesn't interact with anything else.

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